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Topic # 9943 25-Oct-2006 21:05
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So, with tomorrow being the impending release of new broadband plans all around, I wanted to gauge the reactions of everyone here at Geekzone.

Some questions:
Who are you with?
What do you expect them to bring out tomorrow?
What will you do about it?
What plan will you choose?

And any other discussion.

Personally, I'm with Slingshot, I expect LS/LS plans, plus some cheaper, slower plans, better data usage and a semi-sensible management plan. I'll probably get LS/LS, with maybe 5 GB or 10 GB of data, but I'm not sure.

We switched from Xtra because the speed was mediocre and the data was rubbish- a day and it was gone. But, if Xtra manages to pull off a great, very convincing show tomorrow- we might just switch back. The same goes for all the companies, if you come out top dog we might consider you.

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  Reply # 49695 25-Oct-2006 21:23
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Q1) Who are you with?

A) Xtra

Q2) What do you expect them to bring out tomorrow?

A) Xtra have already said what they are coming out with, see http://www.xtraplans.co.nz

Q3) What will you do about it?

A) Nothing!!

Q4) What plan will you choose?
A) I am going to stay on my Explorer plan because Xtra says I can Cool.

There should be no difference in speed (plans speed being the only real factor), irrespective of your ISP if you are using DSL.


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  Reply # 49700 25-Oct-2006 21:33

Who are you with?

Telecom/XTRA (ADSL)

What do you expect them to bring out tomorrow?

Very long hold-times to their customer service reps.

What plan will you choose?

For $99 I'm on a 20GB/month plan which I'm told will jump to 30GB/month and come with a free static IP!
I don't think my speeds will change drastically (if at all) as my current ADSL line speed is ~4200kbps downstream and 600kbps upstream.

Don't believe all the hype - these increased speeds aren't going to be enjoyed by everyone.




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Reply # 49704 25-Oct-2006 21:48
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  Reply # 49706 25-Oct-2006 22:01
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Going to stay on the same plan with Orcon

Advanced 40
256kbit/128kbit AutoSense Plan with 40 GB data allocation


$49.95 a month with tolls as I need the 40 GB.

Movie downloads overnight I can still live with that as its sort of adds a restriction to how much you can do.




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  Reply # 49708 25-Oct-2006 22:47
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Who are you with?
Xtra Go plan...only cause we get it free
What do you expect them to bring out tomorrow?
As announced
What will you do about it?
Have been reviewing plans, but change depends on keeping our current discount/subsidy
What plan will you choose?
Will try the 'Go Large' plan...accually rather try the Woosh 'Orbit Flatrate' plan, but no subsidy from Woosh...

After trialing the 'Go Large' plan for a week, will report back here and give a review...if no-one has done so first. 

Will review:
Speed - top speed and average speed over first week
Quota - will see how much I can download in one week at full steam (during off peak hours)
P2P - will be testing to see if they throttle p2p 24/7 or just peak hours

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Reply # 49718 25-Oct-2006 23:49
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Hi

I must be missed something here,

Isn't TNZ going to let their customer use "UNLIMITED" traffic under their Fair-Usage-Policy?



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  Reply # 49719 26-Oct-2006 00:02
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Shin: Hi
I must be missed something here,
Isn't TNZ going to let their customer use "UNLIMITED" traffic under their Fair-Usage-Policy?

Are you refering to my post?, please quote to save confusion...

Their plan is stated as 'unlimited' yes, but just how unlimited it will really be remains to be seen...

Their fair use policy states they will throttle p2p users during peak hours for a start...but I have read elsewhere that the 'Go Large' plan is in fact #1 not unlimited at all and #2 will throttle p2p users 24/7

It was reported by a Telecom source (sorry I no longer remember the link/source) that the 'Go Large' plan will acually have a 20gb per month quota and will throttle p2p 24/7, yet this is not what is advertised....false advertising maybe, time will tell.

So the results remain to be seen




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  Reply # 49720 26-Oct-2006 00:24
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http://www.xtraplans.co.nz/

The plan states that it has an unlimited data cap but the fair use policy applies to it (more than 700MB between the hours of 4pm and midnight will be frowned upon).

This site also suggests that traffic management will only be in place on the Go Large plans and only during these peak periods.

I don't see how false advertising can be a factor here?

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  Reply # 49723 26-Oct-2006 00:44
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blahbmc: I don't see how false advertising can be a factor here?


It could be if reports made turn out to be true, as they contradict what is being advertised.
The statements made, are not what you see advertised on the Xtra website obviously.

"It was reported by a Telecom source that the 'Go Large' plan will acually have a 20gb per month quota and throttle p2p 24/7"

I'm not saying its right or wrong, just that these statements have been made and reported in the media.



Found the link: Computerworld
"An industry source says that far from being unlimited, Telecom has in fact a 20GB pre month cap on the Go Large plan. Furthermore, the source says, peer-to-peer traffic is rate limited at all times."




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Reply # 49749 26-Oct-2006 10:55
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TheBartender:

It could be if reports made turn out to be true, as they contradict what is being advertised.

Juha's article also quotes a Telecom Spokes Person as saying "there is no monthly data limit on Go Large" ... "if a customer downloads “an irregular amount” of data during peak times, Telecom may contact the person who then could be subjected to traffic management. Outside peak times, traffic will not count towards the Fair Use Policy."

Based on this I would say the reports are not true and this is not false advertising (in regard to the 20GB cap).... Just shows, dont judge a book by it's cover??


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  Reply # 49768 26-Oct-2006 12:14
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Just had my existing xtra plan changed to  Go large. The guy at xtra assured me it is unlimited during the off peak periods.

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  Reply # 49773 26-Oct-2006 12:28
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Think i'll stick with the adventure plan. Just waiting for my speed restrictions to be lifted.

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  Reply # 49780 26-Oct-2006 12:45
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"Unlimited" is unlimited, i.e. no limits.

Personally i think the new offerings are fine, as there are easy ways to circumvent the problem (schedule downloads for off peak times).

A better way to describe the offering would be "flate rate" - "all you can eat, with throttling for the high users"

If they had just been really upfront about it, and made it a feature of the plan, rather than a fine-print condition, then no one would have cause for complaint....

But then show me a telco / isp who is always upfront... we can count those ones on one hand...







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  Reply # 49864 26-Oct-2006 14:40
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uncmil: So, with tomorrow being the impending release of new broadband plans all around, I wanted to gauge the reactions of everyone here at Geekzone.

Some questions:
Who are you with?
Xtra
What do you expect them to bring out tomorrow?
True Unlimited but failed as expected
What will you do about it?
Just called Xtra to change plan from Adventure to Go-Large
What plan will you choose?
Go-Large
And any other discussion.
I don't think their heavy user pool wouldn't affect download speed from Asian countries, I don't think it gets any slower

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