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#1115386 25-Aug-2014 17:45

Before you buy a power supply, I strongly suggest having a look at the one you were thinking about here: http://www.jonnyguru.com/

JonnyGURU tears down power supplies and checks electrical components for quality. He also gives his opinion on performance...etc.

Good luck :)

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#1115715 26-Aug-2014 10:35

Does this all work together?

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#1115731 26-Aug-2014 10:50

Lyderies: Does this all work together?

Video card and PSU are overkill, get the smaller 750W PSU or whatever the size is. Get 8.1 Pro not W7. 8.1 with the latest updates and Start8 or similar, is fantastic and that is coming from someone who actively HATED W8 original release and has been very critical of MS for ignoring it's customers in releasing it in it's original State.

8.1 is pretty close to what I would have had them do.

Gaming works fine on 8.1.

Otherwise that is a kickass machine!

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#1115736 26-Aug-2014 10:52

Most likely. Check the motherboard website for ram compatibility. You don't need the K version of the processor unless you plan to overclock.

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#1115761 26-Aug-2014 11:13

http://pricespy.co.nz/list.php?l=139199&view=m

Checked the motherboard and its ram and it seems to be okay... only 50% sure though

As in terms of cooling will it be okay?

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#1115808 26-Aug-2014 12:39

If you are spending money on an after market cooler. I HIGHLY HIGHLY suggest/recommend you go with Noctua. They are the best on the market and for not much more money. The Generation 4 Haswell chips run quite hot. If you are planning on over-clocking, or even running the CPU for extended periods at above 80%, I suggest looking for a more aggressive cooling solution over air. Noctua fans are also some of the best if not the best on the market.

I would ditch the Seagate drive and look for a Western Digital equivalent, but this is personal preference. I've had Seagate drives fail all day and have yet to have a Western Digital drive fail on me yet (touch wood).

Can't say I've played with Windows 8.1 Pro, but I'd still go with Windows 7 if it's just gaming you are doing. I don't see the need for anything else. Windows 9 based on Microsoft's history is the one you want to buy anyway lol. :P

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#1115810 26-Aug-2014 12:43

+1 DravidDavid for noctua. My 4th gen runs super cool. I sit at 100% load with a $60 cooler @ 64 Celsius.
I am running a cooler master heat tower thing with 2 noctua fans either side, Push pull. Super cool and quiet.
This will be heaps for a stock clock rate http://pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=FANCLM0213&name=COOLER-MASTER-HYPER-212-EVO-COOLER-120mm-PWM-Fan-4

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#1115814 26-Aug-2014 12:52

TimA: +1 DravidDavid for noctua. My 4th gen runs super cool. I sit at 100% load with a $60 cooler @ 64 Celsius.
I am running a cooler master heat tower thing with 2 noctua fans either side, Push pull. Super cool and quiet.
This will be heaps for a stock clock rate http://pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=FANCLM0213&name=COOLER-MASTER-HYPER-212-EVO-COOLER-120mm-PWM-Fan-4

I have the NH-D14 on my clocked Hexacore 1090T @ 3.9GHz. I never see temperatures over 45 degrees while rendering frames at 100% load.

I have a Noctua NH C-14 on an i7 4970K however, and as soon as it peaks above 85% (without hyperthreading) I'm pushing 80+ degrees C. What is worse, is I've been told it's normal! Maybe it's just the i7, but I assumed they changed something in the new generation which made them all run hotter.

EDIT: I don't know how Intel can supply their stock heatsink with an i7 4970K with a straight face. How many chips out there are burning the house down right now?!

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#1115817 26-Aug-2014 12:58

Your chip runs too hit. The design temp is 72.72°C

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#1115849 26-Aug-2014 13:25

DravidDavid: If you are spending money on an after market cooler. I HIGHLY HIGHLY suggest/recommend you go with Noctua. They are the best on the market and for not much more money. The Generation 4 Haswell chips run quite hot. If you are planning on over-clocking, or even running the CPU for extended periods at above 80%, I suggest looking for a more aggressive cooling solution over air. Noctua fans are also some of the best if not the best on the market.

I would ditch the Seagate drive and look for a Western Digital equivalent, but this is personal preference. I've had Seagate drives fail all day and have yet to have a Western Digital drive fail on me yet (touch wood).

Can't say I've played with Windows 8.1 Pro, but I'd still go with Windows 7 if it's just gaming you are doing. I don't see the need for anything else. Windows 9 based on Microsoft's history is the one you want to buy anyway lol. :P

BUYING W7 now is just silly. You can BUY W8 and downgrade, but if later he wants to run W8 under your scenario he cannot.

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#1115854 26-Aug-2014 13:38

networkn: BUYING W7 now is just silly. You can BUY W8 and downgrade, but if later he wants to run W8 under your scenario he cannot.

Fair enough. Buying two operating systems for one is a better deal in that case.

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#1115860 26-Aug-2014 13:51

DravidDavid:
networkn: BUYING W7 now is just silly. You can BUY W8 and downgrade, but if later he wants to run W8 under your scenario he cannot.

Fair enough. Buying two operating systems for one is a better deal in that case.

I should have stated Windows PRO. You cannot downgrade, with non pro versions.

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#1115868 26-Aug-2014 13:57

networkn:
Video card and PSU are overkill,

I would say always get the absolute best video card you can afford for a gaming machine especially if you want 60fps @ 1080p with all the bells and whistles turned on. No other component will have more impact on how well a game does or does not perform.

That said, ATI arguably offer more bang for buck if budget is a concern...and this is coming from a happy GTX780 owner.

DravidDavid: If you are planning on over-clocking, or even running the CPU for extended periods at above 80%, I suggest looking for a more aggressive cooling solution over air. Noctua fans are also some of the best if not the best on the market.

He won't be doing any overclocking on that CPU - it is a multiplier locked locked non "k" version, so I wouldn't worry about busting too much money on an aftermarket cooler right away unless you are running it in a very warm room or the airflow in the case is poor.

TimA: Your chip runs too hit. The design temp is 72.72°C

Pretty sure that is the TCase and he will be measuring core temp.

As long as the CPU isn't throttling down and the system is stable, 80C at the core is hot, but not unsustainably so...

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#1115869 26-Aug-2014 14:01

Noob question incoming,

What is an aftermarket cooler?

He wont be doing any over clocking, it will mainly be gaming and web browsing
I will probably just go for windows 7 as it is cheaper and more than most of all my IT friends tell me never to go near windows 8 and just wait for 9

Very over budget, would i reduce the graphics card if he is not willing to spend that much? or cut costs in other places?

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#1115870 26-Aug-2014 14:06

Lyderies: Noob question incoming,

What is an aftermarket cooler?

He wont be doing any over clocking, it will mainly be gaming and web browsing
I will probably just go for windows 7 as it is cheaper and more than most of all my IT friends tell me never to go near windows 8 and just wait for 9

Very over budget, would i reduce the graphics card if he is not willing to spend that much? or cut costs in other places?

Don't worry about after market cooler, drop the video down there is better bang for buck. I'd be surprised if your IT friends who have tried W8 since the updates would still give you the
same advice, but it's your call. The cheaper SSD would be fine too, smaller PSU would save some. Everything else not much fat.

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