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#3314072 29-Nov-2024 09:04

Addendum; you can actually shift the fan upwards on the heatsink, it is only fastened by clips to the heatsink fins. As long as you have space in the case above the cpu cooler just shift it by some millimeters to give clearance to the ram. Or clip it to the reverse side to pull air through the heatsink if you only had the one fan it came with. The technician really should have tried this instead of just saying it can’t be done.

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#3314143 29-Nov-2024 11:45

I'm not sure, it was the company we've always used but the usual tech wasn't there anymore. We have switched companies, the guy that diagnosed the GPU issue was from the new company, has been extra helpful. He's even left the job open so he can pop in the new GPU when we get it, no extra charge 😊

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#3314145 29-Nov-2024 11:54

What part of the country are you from? It doesn't seem like a major job, potentially someone here might help you sort it out for a couple of beers or something, instead of having to deal with paying technician fees

Anything I say is the ramblings of an ill informed, opinionated so-and-so, and not representative of any of my past, present or future employers, and is also probably best disregarded.

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#3314146 29-Nov-2024 11:55

@SpartanVXL or really any of you lovelies, if we did do just the graphics card, it seems the consensus is the RTX 4070, which one? I'm looking at PB tech, though I really don't care if it's them or not just looking for the best price under $1,500 seeing this should do him another 4 years, hopefully.

Thank you all again, I'm really sorry to be such a pain. I'll try getting pictures of the machine after lunch.

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#3314163 29-Nov-2024 13:09

I'm just outside invercargill, way down south.

The tech recons there's about 30 mins left for the job and thinks he could do the GPU swap in that time. I don't have a clue.

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#3314187 29-Nov-2024 13:38

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/VGAGLX041701/GALAX-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-4070-SUPER-1-CLICK-OC-X2

4070 super.

$1050 at pb tech

24 month warranty Or https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/VGAASU341705/ASUS-DUAL-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-4070-SUPER-EVO-OC-12G?is-review=1

$1099 36 month warranty

If it was me I would go for the 36 warranty card.

It's nice not having to do CGA.

Twalknz72

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#3314218 29-Nov-2024 15:15

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#3314221 29-Nov-2024 15:22

I'd be inclined to rotate the CPU block 90 degrees

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#3314250 29-Nov-2024 16:54

mentalinc:

I'd be inclined to rotate the CPU block 90 degrees

why?

SpartanVXL

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#3314258 29-Nov-2024 17:15

I took a look at the case and cpu cooler specs, you have roughly 6~mm to raise the fan upwards relative to the tower. I don’t know if this will give you enough to slot your new unused ram, but ask the tech if he’s inclined to do it if he’s coming along already to slot a new GPU in for you for free. Otherwise ask him to try re-attach it on the other side in pull configuration, you might as well get to use that RAM you bought.

The 4070 super is recommended given the sales going on. The 4070 Ti super is unfortunately right on the $1500 mark and also mostly sold out along with the regular 4070 Ti.

Either of the 4070 super’s Qazzy linked are good, they also come with a free Indiana Jones game code so be sure to redeem that for your son from pbtech if interested.

It might take a bit longer than 30min if you include trying to adjust the cpu fan and install RAM, but the new GPU shouldn’t take that long.

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#3314274 29-Nov-2024 18:44

Twalknz72:

This is the inside

if you want to use the RAM slots, unclip the fan and raise it or unclip the fan and move it to the back.

i do want to warn you - if you get the 4070 Super and your CPU is not keeping up, your son might get horrible stutter in the game, and if it happens, making the game unplayable. it's called CPU bottlenecking. the fix is then to turn the graphics quality to low.

maybe you want to save some money and get a 4060 or 4060 Ti.

generally a bit of GPU bottlenecking is preferable to a lot of CPU bottlenecking.

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#3314282 29-Nov-2024 19:41

Batman:

generally a bit of GPU bottlenecking is preferable to a lot of CPU bottlenecking.

Op's son is playing at 4k 60fps, the GPU is going to be the limiter, CPU is more than enough to get to 60 in most games.

exceptions being like Stalker 2 and apparently, that is going hard on nearly every CPU.

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#3314322 30-Nov-2024 07:04

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/VGAASU341705/ASUS-DUAL-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-4070-SUPER-EVO-OC-12G?is-review=1

Is the one I think we'll go with but does that mean we need a new PSU as it states 750w?

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#3314337 30-Nov-2024 08:39

Twalknz72: https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/VGAASU341705/ASUS-DUAL-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-4070-SUPER-EVO-OC-12G?is-review=1

Is the one I think we'll go with but does that mean we need a new PSU as it states 750w?

That’s the recommended, not required. 4070 super has a tdp of 220W, this particular model doesn’t spike past 250W. The 10700k CPU tdp is 125W, at most the system will use 400W or so which is fine for your current PSU as long as theres nothing wrong with it.

Recommended is excessive because in the past there would be power supplies that could not deliver on the 12v rail.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-geforce-rtx-4070-super-dual/40.html

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#3314343 30-Nov-2024 09:30

Thank you for that.

I was looking at the inside of the machine we have and thinking it doesn't look that hard to pull the 2060 and put the 4070 in. A long, long, long time ago I'd have vet happy to pull a HD, probably 20 years ago now, and pop a new one in. I plan to watch some YouTube videos first, of course, but looks to me like you'd unplug the thing on the side (like an ethernet plug) pop it out then gently, gently pop the new one in? Just wondering if im wrong.

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