OLED monitor options in NZ

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#3152311 26-Oct-2023 10:32

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The whole gsync/freesync problem of the past is no longer there. Nvidia GPU's now work with freesync as long as the display supports it. Think it was around 2018 when all this mess got cleared up.

So in short there really isint a benefit for g-sync displays anymore.

This reddit thread is a decent summary of the two displays.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ultrawidemasterrace/comments/11n4nku/alienware_aw3423dw_vs_aw3423dwf_comparison/

To be clear, if you just want VRR then there are no issues with using freesync on nvidia via displayport or hdmi2.1 (hdmi2.0 is not supported).

The hardware g-sync modules do however conform to a higher testing standard so specs like HDR rating are guaranteed. There is mentions of lower input latency, larger VRR range and better (variable) overdrive, but if it’s not applicable (like overdrive since you’re getting an oled) then don’t worry about it.

There is a difference, the module does do something. $600 worth? Up to you.

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#3152315 26-Oct-2023 10:38

Well, with the discount, it's about $200 so, probably worth it just to be on the safe side.

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#3152321 26-Oct-2023 11:05

networkn:
Well, with the discount, it's about $200 so, probably worth it just to be on the safe side.

Unless you have a AMD GPU...

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#3152327 26-Oct-2023 11:45

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Unless you have a AMD GPU...

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#3162673 23-Nov-2023 09:09

PBTech had the Asus ROG down to $2000 and the LG down to $1500 for the early 'Black Friday' sale... I managed to resist partly because it was in person only but was right on the fence. Checked again on Monday to see the ROG had sold out but the LG had dropped again to $1300, and could buy online....

Very happy with it so far, still dialing in the settings.

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#3162693 23-Nov-2023 09:29

Monza:
PBTech had the Asus ROG down to $2000 and the LG down to $1500 for the early 'Black Friday' sale... I managed to resist partly because it was in person only but was right on the fence. Checked again on Monday to see the ROG had sold out but the LG had dropped again to $1300, and could buy online....

Very happy with it so far, still dialing in the settings.

Good to hear. Mine is in the post...

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#3163057 23-Nov-2023 21:40

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i can't do OLED monitor because anything with a white background obliterates my eyeballs in 1 nano second. too bright. i can't use my 15" Dell OLED laptop for too long. i cannot imagine a 27" frying my eyes.

the best screen seems to be the current Macbook Pro ones - microled or something. somehow the white background don't burn a hole in my retina.

but everyone's different. i also struggle with IPS displays, gaming at 20% brightness is already very fatiguing. VA seems to be slightly better

but nothing beats the Macbook (well a 14" does help) on my eyes.

i will take my comments back

the LG OLED does not hurt my eyes at all, white background is not super searing, it's almost like a kindle book white. internet also says text is not as clear as IPS - but i have no trouble reading text. they are not 100% as clear as IPS but no problem.

PQ is amazing

i cannot go back to IPS now oops

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#3163100 24-Nov-2023 08:31

yeah, currently using Gamer 2 profile for gaming and back to gamer 1 for work as it gives a much softer white. I think the reviews saying that text is super bad/blurry etc is vastly exaggerated. If I lean in close then I can see it is a tiny bit fuzzy but at my normal reading distance I don't really notice it.

Really like having a remote to adjust settings, means I can adjust and judge at normal distance rather than lean in, fiddle with awkard buttons and then lean back out again. Think will 3d print a little holster for it and keep on the back of the monitor so don't loose it.

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#3163101 24-Nov-2023 08:36

Yeah, I think for now I am ruling out OLED as a technology as a monitor. From what I read, text sharpness is an issue, something I am sensitive to, and as well over 70% of my use is web and office stuff, it's not a compromise I can accept.

Unfortunately, I don't think my unicorn monitor exists in any other technology either. 240+hz 34" Ultrawide 3440x1440 resolution, with 1000R/1500R curve, and great text quality, and much better blacks than my predator 144hz monitor now. I'd have settled for a 27" 1440P OLED, but even those have a weird text render thing, and until windows adjusts to it, if they ever do, those are really dedicated gaming monitors.

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#3163103 24-Nov-2023 08:43

I would eyeball it yourself before ruling it out completely (I know you've been trying to) but yes if overly if you think sensitive to it then agree that it isn't perfect.

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#3163113 24-Nov-2023 09:02

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I would eyeball it yourself before ruling it out completely (I know you've been trying to) but yes if overly if you think sensitive to it then agree that it isn't perfect.

I've also watched a fair number of videos recently about burn in, it's definitely 100% still a thing. It's LESS of a thing, but it's still definitely a thing. Some monitors cover burn in, but it's such a PITA to deal with.

Part of the problem is I am unable to view 3 of the monitors I'd like to buy.

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#3163134 24-Nov-2023 10:05

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I've also watched a fair number of videos recently about burn in, it's definitely 100% still a thing. It's LESS of a thing, but it's still definitely a thing. Some monitors cover burn in, but it's such a PITA to deal with.

Part of the problem is I am unable to view 3 of the monitors I'd like to buy.

I view it for you and I tell you the LG is something else. I don't think burn in is an issue with the LG as they purposely cap the brightness to 200nits SDR and iirc slightly lower in HDR. this display is capable of far brighter pixels (eg Asus maxes it out) so i believe this is how it deals with burn in. It also has other things like image shift.

To my eyes the text are sharp. But not razor sharp if you put your face to the screen. Definitely not blurry even at super close distance. At sitting distance of circa 60cm (can measure if you wish) it's sharp enough. If I compare it with my Asus IPS - there is practically no difference without using a microscope to compare. It's just that 27" 1440 does not have enough DPI.

But then again, I'm switching from a 10 year old Asus PG279Q. Mind you everything else in the house is OLED. TV, my other laptop, the Mac is MicroLED (text is razor sharp on that thing even when you put your face to the screen - sorry don't know the resolution/DPI - that's probably why.

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#3163138 24-Nov-2023 10:12

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I view it for you and I tell you the LG is something else. I don't think burn in is an issue with the LG as they purposely cap the brightness to 200nits SDR and iirc slightly lower in HDR. this display is capable of far brighter pixels (eg Asus maxes it out) so i believe this is how it deals with burn in. It also has other things like image shift.

To my eyes the text are sharp. But not razor sharp if you put your face to the screen. Definitely not blurry even at super close distance. At sitting distance of circa 60cm (can measure if you wish) it's sharp enough. If I compare it with my Asus IPS - there is practically no difference without using a microscope to compare. It's just that 27" 1440 does not have enough DPI.

But then again, I'm switching from a 10 year old Asus PG279Q. Mind you everything else in the house is OLED. TV, my other laptop, the Mac is MicroLED (text is razor sharp on that thing even when you put your face to the screen - sorry don't know the resolution/DPI - that's probably why.

It's kind of expensive to not be able to see and know there is potentially issues. Some people talked about it only being present when they worked remotely in another system (RDP etc). I do a LOT of that type of work too.

I'll see if I can get to see some.

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#3163159 24-Nov-2023 10:38

networkn:

It's kind of expensive to not be able to see and know there is potentially issues. Some people talked about it only being present when they worked remotely in another system (RDP etc). I do a LOT of that type of work too.

I'll see if I can get to see some.

i wonder if the RDP is optimized to IPS (or not optimized to anything at all) to save on bandwidth or something. wonder if windows 10 vs 11 makes a difference.

but i was initially put off by the internet but it was so cheap i had to try it myself and it was blown away. granted, i'm not using it the same way you would be.

i was doing microsoft word the whole night last night on the thing and the white background did not burn my eyes, the text were sharp as anything (unless i did the put the face to screen thing but iirc it was also not sharp when i did that to the IPS - i blamed the DPI - but yes you do have less blackness on text lines going diagonal - horizontal and vertical is perfect but diagonal is missing blackness but it's not like you can't tell the letters apart even with face to screen, and only slightly worse than IPS - they are also missing blackness in diagonal text lines but not as much)

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#3164049 26-Nov-2023 17:29

I've now had a chance to go and look at a couple of additional monitors.

The Samsung 34" OLED @ 175hz is actually not bad at all from a text perspective. It's a FRACTION worse than the 27" IPS Panel I have, and the newer 240Hz generation ones currently on display where I was, to be honest, quite good too.

I had a look at an Viewsonic 240hz Elite IPS Panel in 27" and I was fairly impressed with that too. They didn't have the 27" IPS 240hz ROG, but I have been told it's a fraction better, though $330 more expensive.

I guess it's a choice now between a 240hz and IPS or 175hz and OLED with potential Burn in.

I really wish I could see the Dell at a retail store somewhere.

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