Upgrading from laptop gaming to a desktop PC.

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156 posts

Master Geek

#3131622 25-Sep-2023 10:39

Qazzy03:
Twalknz72:

Ok so I think I'm getting it. My son, with the i7 and 2060gpu would probably be better with something like
AOC 27G2SP 27" FHD 165Hz Gaming Monitor?

Yes, His games will have more frames, which means more FPS, which will mean a smoother experience, usually with less heat and noise.

This also means your son, with the i7 and 2060gpu doesn't ask to upgrade their computer because they can still play all the games including the big blockbuster ones.

Downside is screen is a smaller.

If you son wants the same or similar real world physical sized screen but still at 1080p then you could look at this one

https://www.computerlounge.co.nz/shop/peripherals/monitors/gaming-monitors/benq-ex2710-27-fhd-1ms-ips-144hz-gaming-monitor

Ok so I've looked at the smaller monitor you'd suggested. It has a 165hz refresh rate where the 2nd one has a 144hz. I've looked through computer lounge monitors filtering for that refresh rate, 1920x1080 with .5m response time and found this 27in one. Thoughts please? I also think someone here had recommended this earlier
https://www.computerlounge.co.nz/shop/peripherals/monitors/gaming-monitors/viewsonic-viewsonic-omni-vx2728-fhd165hz-05ms-fast-ips-gaming-monitor

Qazzy03

478 posts

Ultimate Geek

#3131655 25-Sep-2023 13:00

I am not the best with monitors but I think any of the 144hz or 165hz will be fine.

Twalknz72

156 posts

Master Geek

#3131705 25-Sep-2023 17:29

Ok so I'm ready to order. I'm going with the i5

https://www.computerlounge.co.nz/shop/systems/ready-to-ship-pc/gaming-pc/druid-rtx-3060-core-i5-12400f-gaming-pc

And I'll be trying the 4k monitor my my youngest has, the i7 CPU with 2060GPU. That leaves me with a decision on his monitor. I want him to have the best experience and make hus tower last as long as possible. My current conundrum is deciding between these two.

https://www.computerlounge.co.nz/shop/peripherals/monitors/gaming-monitors/benq-ex2710-27-fhd-1ms-ips-144hz-gaming-monitor

https://www.computerlounge.co.nz/shop/peripherals/monitors/gaming-monitors/viewsonic-viewsonic-omni-vx2728-fhd165hz-05ms-fast-ips-gaming-monitor

andrew75

145 posts

Master Geek

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#3131731 25-Sep-2023 19:48

Don't buy into the marketing BS about the ms response times.... A good source of monitor reviews is either Rtings.com or Hardware/Monitors Unboxed.

Twalknz72

156 posts

Master Geek

#3131740 25-Sep-2023 20:29

andrew75:
Don't buy into the marketing BS about the ms response times.... A good source of monitor reviews is either Rtings.com or Hardware/Monitors Unboxed.

I was trying to find reviews via Google with no luck for those exact moddles. I'm just really confused. Both those monitors specs seem to match up except one is 144hz and the others 165hz. I have no idea if one or the other would be for the 2060.

SpartanVXL

1307 posts

Uber Geek

#3131977 26-Sep-2023 11:40

The viewsonic is a pain to find because there are multiple models with the same name, if you search for viewsonic omni vx2728J you may be able to find reviews for the new 1080p model, but as I found, only the VX2728J-2K reviews pop up consistently (which is the 1440p model).

https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/benq-ex2710/

I believe this is the benq, it has decent feature set. Variable refresh, black frame insertion, decent colour at 99% rgb true 8-bit and a 10-bit internal dithering option, psuedo HDR that at least increases brightness. It recommends using the overdrive setting (AMA) at level 1.

Just a fair warning if you’re replacing your sons 4k Samsung with one of these, he may quickly point out how the picture quality looks blocky/blurry or not as sharp. It will however look far smoother/fast if he is used to 60Hz and the new screen is set properly to 144Hz+.

Twalknz72

156 posts

Master Geek

#3135361 27-Sep-2023 08:32

Ok so I've been doing a little research. Looking at reviews and such. I came across a review that mentioned that, while the 3060 12GB was good that for a wee bit more the 3060ti was far superior. With that I did some more digging. I've came across a number of reviews stating the above and that while the 3060 looks good with the 12GB it doesn't have the 'power?' to make use of it and the 3060ti has more of all the useful stuff. As I'm waiting till the next sale, I'm seriously thinking that I should just upgrade to the 3060ti and ensure, if the PSU on the following PC isn't up to task, make sure that's sorted as well.

https://www.computerlounge.co.nz/shop/systems/ready-to-ship-pc/gaming-pc/druid-rtx-3060-core-i5-12400f-gaming-pc

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Qazzy03

478 posts

Ultimate Geek

#3135398 27-Sep-2023 10:17

The 3060ti is significantly better than the 3060 12gb. However you are falling into the rabbit hole of, just a bit more money will get you something better. The more you pay the better hardware you can get. These are mid range gpus and 3060 and 3060ti to are last generation as well. The 40X0 is the current generation. The longer you wait the better deal you might get but that is always true. You need to think about your budget. The previous system with the 3060ti linked in this thread has a rubbish CPU, as in 40% worse, Minecraft and Rimworld dont need a 3060ti to play, imo.

Twalknz72

156 posts

Master Geek

#3135420 27-Sep-2023 11:04

I'm just going to price what swapping out the 3060 12GB for the 3060ti is in that same PC and maybe the PSU if needed. I have no intention of changing the whole system.

Twalknz72

156 posts

Master Geek

#3135422 27-Sep-2023 11:28

So I asked and looks like approximately $120-$150 difference so I'm thinking that'll do.

Qazzy03

478 posts

Ultimate Geek

#3135443 27-Sep-2023 11:57

Okay, cool, if they are happy to upgrade you and you are happy to pay the extra I will say it will be value for you.

The 3060ti will have an easier time working with your 4k Samsung monitor.

SpartanVXL

1307 posts

Uber Geek

#3135444 27-Sep-2023 11:59

The 3060ti is the best value in that range, it is actually recommended over the 3070 for its perf/price (unless that has changed recently).

But yes the advice still stands, it is last generation so you don’t want to be spending too much time or money waiting on it. It’s only saving grace is the current gen being mediocre at mid-low range, the 4060ti costs more and struggles to be on par with 3060ti aside from new features such as DLSS3.5 (which won’t be relevant in your games).

Edit the TDP for 3060ti is rated at 200W draw, a quality 450W is more than sufficient.

Twalknz72

156 posts

Master Geek

#3135456 27-Sep-2023 12:32

SpartanVXL: The 3060ti is the best value in that range, it is actually recommended over the 3070 for its perf/price (unless that has changed recently).

But yes the advice still stands, it is last generation so you don’t want to be spending too much time or money waiting on it. It’s only saving grace is the current gen being mediocre at mid-low range, the 4060ti costs more and struggles to be on par with 3060ti aside from new features such as DLSS3.5 (which won’t be relevant in your games).

Edit the TDP for 3060ti is rated at 200W draw, a quality 450W is more than sufficient.

Sorry I don't understand the edit. When you're talking 200w draw and a 450w would be more than sufficient are you talking PSU?

SpartanVXL

1307 posts

Uber Geek

#3135467 27-Sep-2023 13:02

Twalknz72:
SpartanVXL: The 3060ti is the best value in that range, it is actually recommended over the 3070 for its perf/price (unless that has changed recently).

But yes the advice still stands, it is last generation so you don’t want to be spending too much time or money waiting on it. It’s only saving grace is the current gen being mediocre at mid-low range, the 4060ti costs more and struggles to be on par with 3060ti aside from new features such as DLSS3.5 (which won’t be relevant in your games).

Edit the TDP for 3060ti is rated at 200W draw, a quality 450W is more than sufficient.

Sorry I don't understand the edit. When you're talking 200w draw and a 450w would be more than sufficient are you talking PSU?

Yes, 200-220W for GPU, 140W for CPU leave close to 100W for any additional draw such as fans, disks etc.

Note that the above values are rough guesstimates of maximum draw, not what the system will actually use of a day to day basis. The GPU may be pinned at 100% at 200W (220W if manufacturer allows power limit increase of 10%) for some games but 100% CPU is unlikely, most cases CPU will use 70-90W in games.

Idle power draw can be lower than 50W depending on power states.

By quality I mean Seasonic, Corsair, EVGA or any power supplies that supply rated amperage on the 12V rail without significant ripple or vdroop.

I’m only familiar with Corsair RM series and EVGA G series but there are many more that applicable. You can also go with a higher wattage if you want to give yourself more headroom.

Qazzy03

478 posts

Ultimate Geek

#3135478 27-Sep-2023 13:46

Twalknz72:
SpartanVXL: The 3060ti is the best value in that range, it is actually recommended over the 3070 for its perf/price (unless that has changed recently).

But yes the advice still stands, it is last generation so you don’t want to be spending too much time or money waiting on it. It’s only saving grace is the current gen being mediocre at mid-low range, the 4060ti costs more and struggles to be on par with 3060ti aside from new features such as DLSS3.5 (which won’t be relevant in your games).

Edit the TDP for 3060ti is rated at 200W draw, a quality 450W is more than sufficient.

Sorry I don't understand the edit. When you're talking 200w draw and a 450w would be more than sufficient are you talking PSU?

What they are saying is the power supply maybe fine if it is a good quality one.

You currently have the SilverStone ET550-B 550W 80Plus Bronze Power Supply
It might be okay, however defer to computer lounge.
If they say you should upgrade PSU as well, I recommend you do the upgrade option. So you don't need to fluff around with it and computer lounge are happy to still do warranty for your full system.

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