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Topic # 147421 18-Jun-2014 18:33
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I have a google alert set for my name, just to see if I pop up anywhere.

It notified me today that I have a page on pipkontacternz.net. Which I've never heard of. The page has my home phone number and my home location on a map. There is nothing else on the site to give any clues of who they are.

Looks like it has been scooped up from my phonebook listing.

Anyway, there is a nice Delete Me option at the bottom of the page, but when I tried filling out the form (not using an important email address, just in case) I got a message saying it didn't recognise the page URL. Has anyone else had this?




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  Reply # 1068833 18-Jun-2014 20:10
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Wow.  I'm in there too.  Yes it definitely looks like the whitepages have been harvested.  WHOIS information for the domain is mostly hidden, but the registrant address is in Queensland but the phone number is from Denmark.

I suggest taking it up with the Whitepages people, but there is probably nothing they can do now the horse has bolted.  Makes me think withholding my details form the phone book might be a good idea.

A quick check indicates there is an equivalent for Aussie and Ireland.  w@nkers




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  Reply # 1068854 18-Jun-2014 20:45
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This has brassed me off to the point that I've lodged a complaint with Cloudflare the hosting provider.  I also used the Whitepages web site contact form saying 'please explain'.




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  Reply # 1068859 18-Jun-2014 20:51
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If you change the _ to a / beside the number in the URL, the web site accepts it and you get a confirmation email advising the request will be actioned within 24 hours.  Whether it happens remains to be seen.




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  Reply # 1068891 18-Jun-2014 21:28
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Interesting - what's the point? There's no online advertising so how can they make money from it?

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  Reply # 1068953 19-Jun-2014 00:31
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I found out with a Google alert too. My whole family is in there, but not me. I'm in the white pages, so they might use another source.
This tread is the only information I could find.
There exists a Belgium version as well (registered 12/6/2014).They use a .net domain name, which optionally gives a lot of privacy possibilities.

They do leave a tracking cookie for Yadro.ru - I think that is the benefit for them that comes with it. If you unsubscribe, they also have your email address.

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  Reply # 1068969 19-Jun-2014 05:52
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There was a thread here a month or so ago http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?topicid=146741

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 think its the same outfit.

Bloody handy though, I needed to confirm an address from the phone number I had in the weekend and used it to find the actual house number.

Edit; I assume the only way to remove it is to complain to google to have the search results removed?



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  Reply # 1068973 19-Jun-2014 06:40
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kiwitrc: There was a thread here a month or so ago http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?topicid=146741

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 think its the same outfit.

Bloody handy though, I needed to confirm an address from the phone number I had in the weekend and used it to find the actual house number.

Edit; I assume the only way to remove it is to complain to google to have the search results removed?


I think you are right - it's the same people in that thread.




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  Reply # 1068976 19-Jun-2014 06:45
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logo: Interesting - what's the point? There's no online advertising so how can they make money from it?


As the other thread says, it could be so they capture your email address, as well as your other details.




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  Reply # 1069004 19-Jun-2014 08:00
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Dynamic: This has brassed me off to the point that I've lodged a complaint with Cloudflare the hosting provider.  I also used the Whitepages web site contact form saying 'please explain'.


Cloudflare IS NOT the hosting provider. It's just a CDN. No use complaining to them.







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  Reply # 1069017 19-Jun-2014 08:49
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freitasm: Cloudflare IS NOT the hosting provider. It's just a CDN. No use complaining to them.

They let me know that overnight though I will still will follow up with them in case they decide the content is dodgy enough to suspend the account.

Has anyone got time to try and track down the provider?  I think it is a .de domain but would like a double-check.




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  Reply # 1069018 19-Jun-2014 08:54
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I would say your best bet would be to complain to :
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: 

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  Reply # 1069038 19-Jun-2014 09:27
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Dynamic:
freitasm: Cloudflare IS NOT the hosting provider. It's just a CDN. No use complaining to them.

They let me know that overnight though I will still will follow up with them in case they decide the content is dodgy enough to suspend the account.

Has anyone got time to try and track down the provider?  I think it is a .de domain but would like a double-check.


The content is not "dodgy enough" I would say. The content would have to be extreme in terms of shocking, terror, etc to warrant this. Just because you don't like the content doesn't make it illegal.





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  Reply # 1069120 19-Jun-2014 10:55
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freitasm: The content is not "dodgy enough" I would say. The content would have to be extreme in terms of shocking, terror, etc to warrant this. Just because you don't like the content doesn't make it illegal.

That's a fair comment, though I am hoping to demonstrate the content has been illegally harvested.  I'm awaiting feedback from the Yellow Pages Group as I think this is the most likely source.




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  Reply # 1069122 19-Jun-2014 10:59
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In which case Yellow should make the move and claim copyright infringement, etc, etc... 





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  Reply # 1069131 19-Jun-2014 11:20
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Yup, looks like phonebook/Yellow scraping is correct because all my family have unlisted numbers except my father and he shows up in that search. Joy... hes the most boring person around..  ;)





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