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Topic # 150362 20-Jul-2014 10:01
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I have been given a HP laptop which failed to boot.
Managed to get it booted after running chkdsk but it threw up quite a few bad sector errors during the check - which tells me the HD is very likely on it's way out

Have ordered a new HD for the laptop. Oo the old drive, there is a HP Recovery partition. I am wanting to know if there is a way I can utilise this to create a new image of the OS etc onto the new drive. I considered a full drive ghost (both old and new drives are 500GB), but would this also transfer all the flagged areas on the old drive? It's been a long time since I ghosted anything, and never from a failing drive

Drive won't arrive till tomorrow at the earliest, but want to make sure I am prepped before it gets here.

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  Reply # 1092426 20-Jul-2014 12:01
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You are thinking of trying to image the contents of the old (possibly corrupt) disk onto a new disk?
I admire your optimism.
Its worth a try I guess - but I would be making a plan B if I were you.

Are there any cds or DVDs with the computer?




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  Reply # 1092429 20-Jul-2014 12:10
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The HP recovery system allows you to make one set of recovery DVD's and is an option within the Recovery Menu. I don't know if HP still offers this but they used to allow one to order a set of disc's from them at a small cost from memory it was something like $10 plus postage etc per disc.




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  Reply # 1092434 20-Jul-2014 12:24
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If I were you, I'd download an MSDN image of the same OS from the old install, and use that. It's perfectly legal if you have a legit license, and you should be able to use the key on the bottom of your PC.

Oh, be sure to check the SHA1 hash to be sure you got an untouched copy. They're publicly available on MSDN IIRC.

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  Reply # 1092475 20-Jul-2014 13:59
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Ghosting the drive should work fine I would think.  Chances are the damaged areas are in the 'active OS area' and the recovery area would be fine. Once you have the new drive in place, run the factory recovery to give yourself a fresh OS install.

You'll need to tell Ghost in the options to keep going even if it hits bad sectors.  You won't have 'bad sectors marked' on the new hard drive after this.

I can't think of anything you have to lose by trying.




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  Reply # 1093053 21-Jul-2014 14:40
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Dynamic: Ghosting the drive should work fine I would think. 


As long as you dont use Ghost.
Great as it WAS , its well past its use by date.

Free imaging programs
Try Maxblast or the WD equivelent (Both based on Acronis)
Macrium Reflect
or Active@  (best option of them all)
http://www.livecd.com/

Paragon also works quite well

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  Reply # 1093064 21-Jul-2014 14:47
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Dynamic: Ghosting the drive should work fine I would think. 

As long as you dont use Ghost.
Great as it WAS , its well past its use by date.

It was pretty much the best in the late 90's when I was young and carefree (kidfree).  SATA to SATA it is still fine as best I recall (might have to put the SATA into IDE or Compatability mode temporarily - not that I still use Ghose), but throw USB into the mix and things start to melt down pretty quickly.

I use Acronis now.




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  Reply # 1093065 21-Jul-2014 14:48
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I didn't have any luck with the Macrium, Acronis and a couple of others a few weeks back. Ended up trying Clonezilla. It was the only thing I tried that managed to complete the task of cloning the drive (also from an HP machine) without failing at about 95% of the way through. Was pleasantly surprised and the PC is now humming along nicely with it's new drive in place like nothing ever happened.

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  Reply # 1093083 21-Jul-2014 14:55
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The manufacturer of the new drive will provide software to clone it. I've used acronis (renamed by seagate and western digital) many times to clone drives with bad sectors. The software might complain but it continues ok after telling it to ignore.

Visit the intel driver update site afterwards as some drivers have a problem with the inevitable increase in drive space, namely some services fail to start and windows updates stop working.

Edit: just saw your post above re: acronis.

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  Reply # 1093089 21-Jul-2014 15:04
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In the example I gave above, Acronis was available to download from WD. It failed. Thankfully this isn't the norm with Acronis.

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  Reply # 1094084 23-Jul-2014 10:46
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BigHammer: In the example I gave above, Acronis was available to download from WD. It failed. Thankfully this isn't the norm with Acronis.


95% of the time most modern cloning software simply works

5% of the time it doesnt, thats when you need to try one after the other till you find one that works on that particular job.
Often its caused by PC manufactures using bootloaders, strange non standard recovery partitions, or screwy partition setup etc
But you got a result , thats all that matters.
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