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#195514 22-Apr-2016 11:50

Hi, Win XP won't (properly) see my Seagate USB3 HDD.

A bit more detail.. I set it up on a Win10 machine with 2 partitions and copied over files (and it still works fine in win10).

I want to use it with a second XP machine though as it's mapped through to raspberry pi and some DLNA stuff. When first plugged in XP recognised it, dinged at me and brought up the 'how do you want to open/what to do" wizard.

I clicked "Take No Action" which I suspect is my problem.. the drive isn't in Explorer, not is it present in Disk Management. But it is in Device Manager and reports "working Properly". The USB ports (I've tried a couple) all work with other drives (memorysticks).

Can I get that wizard back, if I could choose Open in Explore maybe it'll appear and be OK. Otherwise any other suggestions?

Thanks.

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#1538046 22-Apr-2016 12:37

Currently sold drives will not work on XP as they use GPT for partitioning.

Put it back on the supported operating system and look in device manager what it's formatted as and if it is GPT then you can repartiton back to partition table if you are OK losing your stuff on the drive and being limited to 2tb.

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#1538050 22-Apr-2016 12:46

AAhh, it is 4TB size but I set it up in Win 10 as NTFS and 2x 2TB partitions thinking that would work in XP.

Looks like I was wrong ? Is it GPT anyway, even if NTFS formatted ? Couldn't see any mention of that in Device manager. Could you advise where that shoudl be in DM ? Thanks.

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#1538052 22-Apr-2016 12:48

I will have a look when I'm home. But if you want it to work on XP you will need to find an old one that has the sector size conversion so that partition table can handle more than 2tb.

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#1538086 22-Apr-2016 13:23

In disk management, right click drive in the bottom pane and properties, then the volume tab will tell you if its GPT or MBR

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#1538100 22-Apr-2016 13:35

Will do - as soon as I get a new keyboard for win 10! I leaned the case forward to get at the USB port and broke the wireless dongle on the front!

Prefer to keep it 4TB size and have already copied files to it.

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#1538105 22-Apr-2016 13:41

This has pictures of the old drives that will work, and the new ones that will require GPT, and details on how to convert it over if you do really want to keep using an obsolete operating system.

http://knowledge.seagate.com/articles/en_US/FAQ/006125en?language=en_US

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#1538106 22-Apr-2016 13:44

If you connect an XP machine to the internet, there is a special place in hell reserved for you. Just sayin.

Information wants to be free. The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.

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#1538187 22-Apr-2016 15:11

Thanks, Rich, it is GPT. No problem as I can share the drive in XP.

Why the put-down for for XP? It's a cool OS and I much prefer if to Win 10, especially the Explorer style/size. Never had a problem on line and still getting updates from MS.

I have a win10 machine as well, for things that insist on it.

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#1538195 22-Apr-2016 15:26

ADKM:

Thanks, Rich, it is GPT. No problem as I can share the drive in XP.

Why the put-down for for XP? It's a cool OS and I much prefer if to Win 10, especially the Explorer style/size. Never had a problem on line and still getting updates from MS.

I have a win10 machine as well, for things that insist on it.

You are not getting security updates from MS. You may be getting the latest MRTs, but no more updates. Suggest you get off XP sooner rather than later.

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#1538198 22-Apr-2016 15:30

ADKM:

Thanks, Rich, it is GPT. No problem as I can share the drive in XP.

Why the put-down for for XP? It's a cool OS and I much prefer if to Win 10, especially the Explorer style/size. Never had a problem on line and still getting updates from MS.

I have a win10 machine as well, for things that insist on it.

Because it lacks support for current hardware, as you are finding out with the drive problem, it has no more security updates which means that you are a sitting target on the internet as even if you dont browse with IE, there are countless ways to have things still own an XP machine. Doesnt make full use of a fast SSD and decent amounts of ram, sleep is broken on anything newer than a first gen i7 machine IME.

It was a great OS in its time, but thanks to the cockup that was vista, people held onto it for far too long.

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#1538213 22-Apr-2016 16:06

Yes, that all may be so but it works for me and I like it. Apart from anything else, there's all the software that I have running which may (or may not) work as well on Win10. Or even at all.

I've heard a lot about internet problems with XP but never experienced any myself, or anyone else for that matter. It could well be a myth (similar to Y2k) that the world would end when XP updates stopped!

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#1538316 22-Apr-2016 19:03

ADKM:

Yes, that all may be so but it works for me and I like it. Apart from anything else, there's all the software that I have running which may (or may not) work as well on Win10. Or even at all.

I've heard a lot about internet problems with XP but never experienced any myself, or anyone else for that matter. It could well be a myth (similar to Y2k) that the world would end when XP updates stopped!

It's not a myth, it's a completely insecure operating system that's widely exploited, particularly for botnets that are used for all sorts of nefarious activities. Not to mention that the vast majority of software vendors no longer issue updates for their stacks of products on top of XP, exposing an even greater number of vulnerabilities.

Connecting an XP machine to the internet is pretty much the electronic equivalent of trying to win a Darwin award.

Information wants to be free. The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.

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#1538356 22-Apr-2016 19:55

It may not be a myth but I only recently migrated my last machine off of XP and I never experienced any security or stability issues during many years of service. I would have known if I had because I monitor my connection and my data usage. If I needed to return to XP for any reason I would not have a problem doing so.

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#1541455 25-Apr-2016 08:48

ADKM:

AAhh, it is 4TB size but I set it up in Win 10 as NTFS and 2x 2TB partitions thinking that would work in XP.

Looks like I was wrong ? Is it GPT anyway, even if NTFS formatted ? Couldn't see any mention of that in Device manager. Could you advise where that shoudl be in DM ? Thanks.

You'll need to check it in drive management to find out if it's an GPT partition if it is you can remove the partition and make 2 x 2TB MBR partitions instead and then format them both with NTFS which winxp will have no problems seeing

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#1541540 25-Apr-2016 11:06

Thanks Athlonite, If I'd have done that if I'd known. Very handy info but it's all up and running with Win10 and shared with the XP machine

The only hassle is Win10. It "fell off" w10 Explorer once for no reason and I notice w10 in general can be in limbo mode, needing much circular

wait cursor-ing while it decides to get going. XP never suffered from that.

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