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# 205633 20-Nov-2016 21:49
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Are there no decent all in ones for sale in New Zealand? Or is it a market gap?

 

 

I was thinking of replacing my ageing PC (FX-6300, HD7850) which I last upgraded about 4 years ago, with an all-in-one with some gaming capability. How hard could that be? Let's say an i7-6700T or i5-6400T, and a decent graphics chipset - something like GTX 960M, and no touch screen - why would I want to touch my screen?

 

 

Instead all I'm seeing is a maximum 930A (which I assume is identical to 930M) graphics, and for some reason - with the mandatory touch screen. Or, the ridiculous HP Envy Curved 34-A001A (i7-6700T, GTX 960M, 34 inch curved screen) - why would anyone want that?!

 

 

What am I missing here?




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  # 1674708 20-Nov-2016 22:28
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You are wanting to game on an AIO PC, that's the problem. They are not designed for that purpose, just to be work/entertainment systems.

 

Best bet would be to get a cheap $1500 gaming laptop with an external 24inch screen if needed.

 

Or get a gaming PC system for the around the same price.




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  # 1674712 20-Nov-2016 23:09
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lNomNoml:

You are wanting to game on an AIO PC, that's the problem. They are not designed for that purpose, just to be work/entertainment systems.

 

Best bet would be to get a cheap $1500 gaming laptop with an external 24inch screen if needed.

 

Or get a gaming PC system for the around the same price.

 

 

Yep, but gaming IS entertainment. :)

 

Why shouldn't an AIO deliver similar performance to a cheap gaming laptop, but at a slightly higher price? Surely I'm not the only casual gamer out there who doesn't really want ultra high 4K settings, but still wants to enjoy a game on decent spec?

 

Obviously no true gamer is going to buy an AIO, which is why I don't know why anyone thought HP 34-A001A was a good idea. But there should be an AIO that supports casual gaming at medium to high quality settings for games released in the last 24 months. Asus seemed to have the right idea with Zen AiO Pro Z240ICGT, but it's no longer available, anywhere.




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  # 1674737 20-Nov-2016 23:50
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Kookoo:
lNomNoml:

 

You are wanting to game on an AIO PC, that's the problem. They are not designed for that purpose, just to be work/entertainment systems.

 

Best bet would be to get a cheap $1500 gaming laptop with an external 24inch screen if needed.

 

Or get a gaming PC system for the around the same price.

 

Yep, but gaming IS entertainment. :) Why shouldn't an AIO deliver similar performance to a cheap gaming laptop, but at a slightly higher price? Surely I'm not the only casual gamer out there who doesn't really want ultra high 4K settings, but still wants to enjoy a game on decent spec? Obviously no true gamer is going to buy an AIO, which is why I don't know why anyone thought HP 34-A001A was a good idea. But there should be an AIO that supports casual gaming at medium to high quality settings for games released in the last 24 months. Asus seemed to have the right idea with Zen AiO Pro Z240ICGT, but it's no longer available, anywhere.

 

Exactly why they won't bother. :-)





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  # 1674780 21-Nov-2016 09:02
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Perhaps have a look at the HP Z series machines designed for CAD work.  We've never sold an AIO but sell the tower and SFF machines and have done for years with great results.  Quadro graphics, which might be OK for gaming, but you would have to research.  Needless to say, not cheap.





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  # 1674785 21-Nov-2016 09:16
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lNomNoml:

 

You are wanting to game on an AIO PC, that's the problem. They are not designed for that purpose, just to be work/entertainment systems.

 

Best bet would be to get a cheap $1500 gaming laptop with an external 24inch screen if needed.

 

Or get a gaming PC system for the around the same price.

 

 

 

 

Dont get a $1500 gaming laptop what ever you do. I spent 1800 and got the best specs for that price range. A lovely dual core heap of junk I7 that uses less power than an I3 and lesser performance. Just build an I5 mid range desktop and spend money on a graphics card. My laptop runs OK but cant play any of the latest games on average specs with its GTX 950M and I7 5500U. (U for Uselesss)

 

 


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  # 1674860 21-Nov-2016 11:05
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A hardcore gaming AIO would be not so hardcore by the time it came to market

 

also
-can never upgrade the vid card
-can never upgrade the monitor
-limited HD upgrade/addon options, can be a pain to even install a SSD (from experience)
-expensive to repair when out of warranty (see below)
-uses non standard parts: cant use off the shelf PSU, mb etc .
-not optimised for good airflow

 

exactly all the things a hard core gamer doesnt want. Thats why they dont make dedicated gaming AIO's

 

 


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  # 1674879 21-Nov-2016 11:22
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But if you do still want an AIO, I've noticed PB Tech often have good deals on off lease units.





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  # 1674887 21-Nov-2016 11:30
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I remember these beasts from school!

 




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  # 1675056 21-Nov-2016 16:07
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1101:

 

A hardcore gaming AIO would be not so hardcore by the time it came to market

 

also
-can never upgrade the vid card
-can never upgrade the monitor
-limited HD upgrade/addon options, can be a pain to even install a SSD (from experience)
-expensive to repair when out of warranty (see below)
-uses non standard parts: cant use off the shelf PSU, mb etc .
-not optimised for good airflow

 

exactly all the things a hard core gamer doesnt want. Thats why they dont make dedicated gaming AIO's

 

 

 

That's all true, but I'm not a hardcore gamer. All I'm after is a GTX 960M on an AIO. That's nowhere near hardcore, but is still much better than the Intel 530 or even 930M they all seem to come with. But then again, I might be on my own here. :)





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  # 1675061 21-Nov-2016 16:22
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There is one AIO that would be powerful enough - an iMac 27" with 5k retina display, 2GB dedicated graphics and upgraded to 16GB of RAM at purchase, running Windows on a boot camp partition. You'd need to spend about $3500 though.





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  # 1675062 21-Nov-2016 16:34
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TimA:

 

I remember these beasts from school!

 

 

 

 

 

Someone took that photo with a camera on a tripod and still managed to not get it sharp, great work!

 

Oh and this is what I used when at school:

 

 

 





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  # 1675088 21-Nov-2016 17:06
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i just got this for under $1500 beats an all in one on price and performance

 

- IN WIN 503 BLACK SECC ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
- Intel Core i5-6400 Skylake 2.7GHz (3.1GHz Turbo) LGA 1151 Quad Core Desktop Processor
- Factory Cooler supplied with Processor
- ASUS H170M E D3 Micro ATX Motherboard
- 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3 1600 Dual Channel Gaming Memory Kit
- ASUS STRIX STRIX-GTX960-DC2OC-4GD5 GeForce GTX 960 4GB 128-bit GDDR5 Video Card
- 550W 80 Plus Gold Certified Power Supply
- 120GB Solid State Drive (SSD)
- 1TB Hard Drive - SATA 6.0Gb/s
- DVD Reader/Writer - 24x Dual Layer
- Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64/32 Bit Operating System USB Version
- Rear Connections:1x PS/2, 2x USB2.0, 4x USB3.0, 1x LAN, 3x Audio Jacks
- Front Connections:1x USB3.0, 1x USB2.0, 1x Audio, 1x Mic





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# 1675173 21-Nov-2016 21:23
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CYaBro:

If it is space that you are worried about then what about one of these?

 

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3074962/computers/intel-nuc6i7kyk-review-this-skull-canyon-nuc-smashes-all-mini-pc-preconceptions.html

 

 

That's actually a really good idea. A mini PC - I haven't thought of that. Thanks!

 

On second thought. Iris Pro 580. It's not in any shape a gaming device, not even for a casual gamer on medium settings.

 

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Iris-Pro-Graphics-580.160664.0.html




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  # 1675258 21-Nov-2016 22:42
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TimA:

 

lNomNoml:

 

You are wanting to game on an AIO PC, that's the problem. They are not designed for that purpose, just to be work/entertainment systems.

 

Best bet would be to get a cheap $1500 gaming laptop with an external 24inch screen if needed.

 

Or get a gaming PC system for the around the same price.

 

 

 

 

Dont get a $1500 gaming laptop what ever you do. I spent 1800 and got the best specs for that price range. A lovely dual core heap of junk I7 that uses less power than an I3 and lesser performance. Just build an I5 mid range desktop and spend money on a graphics card. My laptop runs OK but cant play any of the latest games on average specs with its GTX 950M and I7 5500U. (U for Uselesss)

 

 

 

 

 

 

You got ripped off then or chose a very expensive model, I recently bought myself this for light gaming on the weekends away from home and it does everything more than good enough for the price. Sadly it's discontinued and more expensive but could've been a decent option for the OP.


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