Advice for first PC build

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whwotjd

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#222940 4-Sep-2017 22:34

Hi, this will be my first PC build and I initially wanted a 1.5k build. I decided to start by picking out the parts I wanted by looking at the specs and then adjust down later. I am slightly over budget but if this is the best build for my requirements, then I will keep this build.

CPU: i5 7600k

Cooler: Cryorig H7

Mobo: Asus Rog Strix 270E

RAM: 8GB DDR4 Kingston HyperX Fury Black 2400MHz

HDD: WD 1TB

GPU: Gigabyte GTX 1060 6GB

PSU: 500W Corsair

Case: undecided

I will be using the PC for games -mainly PUBG, Fifa 18 and could end up playing others, and also for work use which involves using programs which apply architectural drawings but I don't think it will too heavy. I am mainly concerned about longevity.

Is the mobo that I have chosen necessary or can I find something cheaper? Also, I have not yet decided on a case yet, if I could get recommendations on the case too. Aesthetics don't matter at all.

Thanks in advance.

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#1858610 5-Sep-2017 04:46

Do you need an overclocking CPU?

and no that mother board isnt necessary unless you need overclocking, you could pick up a B or H series one for about $100 cheaper

You need a solid state drive in there it will give you a huge boost in preformance, spinning discs now days are just used for storage. so could still keep the 1TB drive for that.

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#1858626 5-Sep-2017 07:40

I'm not 100% sure at this time if I will be overclocking or not, but I would like to have the option open.

I was also going to add in a SSD later as the build is currently over the expected budget.

Is what I have the way to go or have I chosen some unnecessary parts?

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#1858630 5-Sep-2017 07:47

Have you considered Ryzen. AMD is best value for $ at the moment in my opinion. I would get 16GB of ram too. Stock coolers are fine.

Motherboard: $179.95 B350 Motherboard
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=28579

Ryzen 5 1600 CPU: $339.95 (can overclock it)

http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=28792

RAM: $259.95

http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=29375

PSU: $179.95

http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=29035

GFX: GTX1060 6GB $549.95 OR 3GB @ $389.55

http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=27284

http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=27616

1TB HDD as you mentioned. is roughly $90. I would get an SSD if you can afford it though.

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#1858635 5-Sep-2017 08:05

Spend less on the CPU and more on the GPU, You would get away with a mid range I5. Heck I'd throw a 2500K at any task today happily.
Get a SSD and 16GB RAM, PUBG will hate a HDD and 8GB ram.

That Mobo is throwing money down the drain, Get a nice Gigabyte mid range one or Asus.

You will be shooting yourself in the foot if you don't get a SSD now.

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#1858644 5-Sep-2017 08:20

I would get a non-K CPU and the cheapest of a good brand motherboard that has the ports you need. I got mine from newegg, which ships some things to NZ. Warranty would be more difficult, and higher chance of damage shipping from the USA.

Get an SSD, they make a huge difference to performance. Windows takes about 30GB. Games are big, but then 128GB might be enough, 256GB should be enough. Samsung 850 evo are cheapish and very good, 850 pro will last a little longer, but by then you'll probably get a 2TB SSD for cheap anyway. Get a small HDD as well, for bulk storage.

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#1858650 5-Sep-2017 08:43

I'll just echo what's already been stated: spend less on CPU and mobo, more on GPU and SSD. For case just go with something basic. Or if you want to go secondhand on the case I think I have a pretty good black lian li case gathering dust in my garage... ;)

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#1858662 5-Sep-2017 09:01

darylblake:
Have you considered Ryzen. AMD is best value for $ at the moment in my opinion. I would get 16GB of ram too. Stock coolers are fine.

Motherboard: $179.95 B350 Motherboard
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=28579

Ryzen 5 1600 CPU: $339.95 (can overclock it)

http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=28792

RAM: $259.95

http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=29375

PSU: $179.95

http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=29035

GFX: GTX1060 6GB $549.95 OR 3GB @ $389.55

http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=27284

http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=27616

1TB HDD as you mentioned. is roughly $90. I would get an SSD if you can afford it though.

Had a look at the Ryzen CPU but it seems like the only better thing about the Ryzen is that it has more cores. I don't think I'll be using all of those cores or multi-threading at all. Did I miss something on the Ryzen?
Also, is 650W necessary? I was under the assumption that 500W was sufficient for most builds.

Since everyone has recommended 16gb ram and an SSD, I think that's the way to go.

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#1858676 5-Sep-2017 09:26

GPU also depends on your screen as well. If you're running at 1080p a 6GB 1060 will be fine. I would stay away from a 3GB 1060. The small amount of memory will become quite problematic; they are slower and there are specific games in which the 3GB causes significant performance issues (some not all) compared to 6GB. If resolution is above 1080p or you're looking move up soon up beyond, I'd echo the above and cut back other stuff to get something a bit gruntier in the GPU space.

Also be wary of the pitfalls of fast gear. You get very used to it and it becomes not so great when you can't afford to keep up due to life getting in the way. I did flagship GPU treadmill for many years and I've locked myself now at 1080p as it means I can get quite a lot for not a lot of dollar with mid-range GPUs.

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#1858820 5-Sep-2017 11:30

whwotjd:
darylblake:

Have you considered Ryzen. AMD is best value for $ at the moment in my opinion. I would get 16GB of ram too. Stock coolers are fine.

Motherboard: $179.95 B350 Motherboard
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=28579

Ryzen 5 1600 CPU: $339.95 (can overclock it)

http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=28792

RAM: $259.95

http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=29375

PSU: $179.95

http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=29035

GFX: GTX1060 6GB $549.95 OR 3GB @ $389.55

http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=27284

http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=27616

1TB HDD as you mentioned. is roughly $90. I would get an SSD if you can afford it though.

Had a look at the Ryzen CPU but it seems like the only better thing about the Ryzen is that it has more cores. I don't think I'll be using all of those cores or multi-threading at all. Did I miss something on the Ryzen?
Also, is 650W necessary? I was under the assumption that 500W was sufficient for most builds.

Since everyone has recommended 16gb ram and an SSD, I think that's the way to go.

Ryzen is better due to the price to performance ratio.

Yes overall the Intel will be faster but it ends up being not that far ahead and in general much much more expensive.

As others have mentioned already, SSD and possibly re-route $ into GFX instead.

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#1858828 5-Sep-2017 11:43

PsychoSmiley:

GPU also depends on your screen as well. If you're running at 1080p a 6GB 1060 will be fine. I would stay away from a 3GB 1060. The small amount of memory will become quite problematic; they are slower and there are specific games in which the 3GB causes significant performance issues (some not all) compared to 6GB. If resolution is above 1080p or you're looking move up soon up beyond, I'd echo the above and cut back other stuff to get something a bit gruntier in the GPU space.

Also be wary of the pitfalls of fast gear. You get very used to it and it becomes not so great when you can't afford to keep up due to life getting in the way. I did flagship GPU treadmill for many years and I've locked myself now at 1080p as it means I can get quite a lot for not a lot of dollar with mid-range GPUs.

In a past life when i was rich (AKA living at home full time job zero expenses) I had a 4770K, 16GB RAM, 680 GTX all the SSD's and HDD's money could fit into a NZXT phantom. Sold that cause downsizing, got a laptop, pure torture. Couldnt even handle the fact it took over second to open a web browser.

Fast forward to now povo spec FX6300 with minimal specs, RX550 and like, I see what your saying...

I have seen people using I3's/R3's and low end I5's/R5's and they sit on the heels of a 7600K in all games with a good GPU. Most of it comes down to RAM speed/size, SINGLE CORE PERFORMANCE, GPU and SSD.

whwotjd

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#1861115 8-Sep-2017 23:56

Hi guys,
I've taken a look at Ryzen and I've decided to go Ryzen instead of Intel.

Could you take a look at my new build:

CPU: Ryzen 5 1500X
GPU: Gugabyte GTX 1060 6GB
Mobo: GA-AB350N Gaming WIFI
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX DRR4 2666MHz 8GB x 2
HDD: WD 1TB
SSD: Samsung Evo 850 250GB
PSU: ??

I need recommendations for the PSU and a review on whether this mobowill be ok to go with.
I also read up that Ryzen doesn't like some RAM chips. Will this one be ok in this build?

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#1862462 11-Sep-2017 17:31

I personally love the EVGA power supplies - have been very reliable. Something like this:

http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=28169 or there's the G3 version for $10 more. This one is 550W which would be fine for your build, but if you prefer 650W, there's always the corsair one that darylblake posted above for the same price as the G2 550W.

Can't comment on the compatibility of Ryzen + RAM as I haven't kept up with the releases as I lack the need to upgrade anytime soon but someone should be able to chime in.