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My networking know-how is very superficial. Lately I have been using Comodo Dragon as my preferred browser. It seemed fine until the other day, but now, many (not all) HTTPS sites are being displayed as insecure. A few, including Geekzone, don't have this problem, but others do. A recent example is https://billbennett.co.nz/nz-wireless-rural-broadband/. On Chrome this displays normally, as secure. On Dragon I get a warning that it is not secure.

 

Does this have to do with Comodo security certificates not being up to date? I don't really understand what is going on here, or what could be causing this. For the moment I am using another browser that does not have this issue but I would like to know why Dragon is behaving differently in this regard.

 

 





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  #1913299 5-Dec-2017 13:28
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I don't know this browser at all.

 

Can you view the Certificate information and see where it says the issue lies?

 

https://help.comodo.com/topic-120-1-279-2587-.html 





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  #1913331 5-Dec-2017 14:09
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Comodo sell certificates. They are deliberately marking certificates issued for free by Let's Encrypt as insecure to try and force people to buy certificates from them.

 





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  #1913334 5-Dec-2017 14:11
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It says the certificate is ok but it also says the site is insecure. I don't see anything specific that makes sense to me. I have also noticed this on some other sites in the last day or so. I don't recall seeing this before. I am pretty sure I would have noticed it. Anything more than that is probably beyond my understanding.

 

 





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  #1913335 5-Dec-2017 14:13
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Lias:

 

Comodo sell certificates. They are deliberately marking certificates issued for free by Let's Encrypt as insecure to try and force people to buy certificates from them.

 

 

 

 

Is that what's behind this? If so, that is pretty low. No way am I going to give them any money.

 

 

 

 





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Do you have examples of other sites it is complaining about. Might be able to see a pattern.

 

Maybe comodo browser dosn't like wordpress powered sites. :)

 

 


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Rikkitic:

 

Lias:

 

Comodo sell certificates. They are deliberately marking certificates issued for free by Let's Encrypt as insecure to try and force people to buy certificates from them.

 

 

 

 

Is that what's behind this? If so, that is pretty low. No way am I going to give them any money.

 

 

Why pay for Comodo browser. It is just a Chromium browser clone.

 


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  #1913348 5-Dec-2017 14:30
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Rikkitic:

 

Lias:

 

Comodo sell certificates. They are deliberately marking certificates issued for free by Let's Encrypt as insecure to try and force people to buy certificates from them.

 

 

 

 

Is that what's behind this? If so, that is pretty low. No way am I going to give them any money.

 

 

Yes and it's not a new thing.. Selling certificates has made a hell of a lot of money for some companies, and Comodo in particular appears to threatened by Let's Encrypt (which offers free certificates because it believes security is more important than profit). Comodo tried to ninja trademark "Let's Encrypt" when they noticed the non-profit behind Let's Encrypt hadn't trademarked the name they were using. They lost in the end, but it was only their opening shot. What you are seeing in their terrible, insecure browser is another attempt by them to undermine Let's Encrypt.

 

 

 

 





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  #1913361 5-Dec-2017 14:42
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djtOtago:

 

Do you have examples of other sites it is complaining about. Might be able to see a pattern.

 

Maybe comodo browser dosn't like wordpress powered sites. :)

 

 

 

 

There are a couple I notice at the moment. One might be a bit shady, as it also offers links to pirate add-ons. These popped up in my searches for legal free film streaming sites. The other seems okay. But they both have HTTPS addresses and Dragon says their certificates are okay. In any case, I don't think Bill Bennett has gone over to the Dark Side.

 

 





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djtOtago:

 

Rikkitic:

 

Lias:

 

Comodo sell certificates. They are deliberately marking certificates issued for free by Let's Encrypt as insecure to try and force people to buy certificates from them.

 

 

 

 

Is that what's behind this? If so, that is pretty low. No way am I going to give them any money.

 

 

Why pay for Comodo browser. It is just a Chromium browser clone.

 

 

 

I don't pay for any browser. I just like to try different ones from time to time. 

 

 





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Lias:

 

Rikkitic:

 

Lias:

 

Comodo sell certificates. They are deliberately marking certificates issued for free by Let's Encrypt as insecure to try and force people to buy certificates from them.

 

 

 

 

Is that what's behind this? If so, that is pretty low. No way am I going to give them any money.

 

 

Yes and it's not a new thing.. Selling certificates has made a hell of a lot of money for some companies, and Comodo in particular appears to threatened by Let's Encrypt (which offers free certificates because it believes security is more important than profit). Comodo tried to ninja trademark "Let's Encrypt" when they noticed the non-profit behind Let's Encrypt hadn't trademarked the name they were using. They lost in the end, but it was only their opening shot. What you are seeing in their terrible, insecure browser is another attempt by them to undermine Let's Encrypt.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not using their Internet security and also not using that browser. I have been using Dragon, which is something different, though of course by the same outfit. I was getting tired of it anyway.

 

 





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