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#226383 5-Jan-2018 00:41
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looking build a new pc I have $1500 to spend

 

not for gamming no over clocking

 

so far i picked a Intel Core i5-8400 2.8 GHz CPU

 

and about 8 gb ram

 

now need a

 

motherboard

 

sdd

 

hard drive

 

gpu 

 

and case with room for 4 hard drives and ssd and dvd writer dont need fancy lights etc

 

 

 

what would you get ??

 

must be from a nz site

 

thanks


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  #1929561 5-Jan-2018 07:14
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Years ago, a friend of mine had a successful business building desktop machines and I asked him about a particular configuration that I wanted hoping to get it cheaper than that major brands (such as HP, Compaq, IBM, etc) were selling at the time.

 

He's reply initially shocked me as he said ''...buy the major brand product...' as he couldn't make a better machine than that offered by the major brands and guarantee that all the components would work together properly.

 

I eventually purchased a HP product that worked perfectly for many years before it was replaced by another HP machine...

 

As for my friend, I lost touch with him but I know he closed the business down. I would imagine that he's busy buying and selling bitcoins.

 

 

 

So, why not simply choose a product from one of the major brands that matches your shopping list?


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  #1929608 5-Jan-2018 09:16
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If not into gaming etc then buying a system as Roger mentioned, isnt a bad idea. I've got an old Dell Vostro 410 thats still ticking along very happily as my home server. Added some drives and more RAM and thats all Ive touched on it. (wow... 10 years old this year)

 

 

 

What are you wanting to use the PC for ?

 

 





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  #1929612 5-Jan-2018 09:20
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You could get something like this for intel:

 

https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/bFnzm8

 

 

 

Alternatively a Ryzen System

 

https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/rqMs6X

 

 

 

Use pricespy as they scan more NZ stores than PC part picker.

 

Stuff like the case look around see if you can find something more suitable.


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  #1929615 5-Jan-2018 09:21
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rogercruse:

 

Years ago, a friend of mine had a successful business building desktop machines and I asked him about a particular configuration that I wanted hoping to get it cheaper than that major brands (such as HP, Compaq, IBM, etc) were selling at the time.

 

He's reply initially shocked me as he said ''...buy the major brand product...' as he couldn't make a better machine than that offered by the major brands and guarantee that all the components would work together properly.

 

I eventually purchased a HP product that worked perfectly for many years before it was replaced by another HP machine...

 

As for my friend, I lost touch with him but I know he closed the business down. I would imagine that he's busy buying and selling bitcoins.

 

 

 

So, why not simply choose a product from one of the major brands that matches your shopping list?

 

 

you pay on average $600-$800 more for the same brand pc than if you built it your self. I have just built my own pc and that is what i found.





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  #1929624 5-Jan-2018 09:37
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I'm a fan of gaming systems as they are well spec'd for Photoshop and content creation in general, and economy of scale makes them good value.  I have my desktops made for me, but my laptop (MSI GT70) is pure gaming. 

 

It's four years old, and still runs all the Adobe CC apps comfortably. 





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  #1929646 5-Jan-2018 10:04
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Look at pricespy website and compare the machines you can get on the site to the approximate cost of similar parts and see if there is anything you can get to save you bother but have similar performance to what you want at a comparable price. Keep an eye on who the retailer is for parts and computers as I like personally to deal with suppliers who are local with a shop but that usually means you pay a bit more. You can do all kinds of filters etc to narrow your searches to more specifically what you want.

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  #1929752 5-Jan-2018 11:23
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I avoid buying from multiple stores etc, mainly because most savings you lose in courier fees etc.





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  #1929774 5-Jan-2018 12:06
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Newegg sells to NZ, and Amazon shipping can be reasonable. Cases are best purchased in NZ. For a standard PC it's probably going to be much easier to just buy one off the shelf or from a manufacturers website than build yourself - Dell, HP, Lenovo. I'd only build myself if I couldn't find what I wanted premade or made to order.


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  #1931063 5-Jan-2018 21:40
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One of the other main issues not mentioned here with buying pre built PC's if the performance with 8th generation Intel CPUs will likely be a noticeable amount slower due to the way Intels all core turbo works and cooling solutions not being able to keep up. A 65w tdp on something like an i7 8700 is only possible at lower clock speeds in an all core turbo scenario.

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  #1931069 5-Jan-2018 21:58
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Stan: One of the other main issues not mentioned here with buying pre built PC's if the performance with 8th generation Intel CPUs will likely be a noticeable amount slower due to the way Intels all core turbo works and cooling solutions not being able to keep up. A 65w tdp on something like an i7 8700 is only possible at lower clock speeds in an all core turbo scenario.

 

That's why you spend a few quid more for the K :)





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  #1931098 5-Jan-2018 23:30
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Batman:

 

Stan: One of the other main issues not mentioned here with buying pre built PC's if the performance with 8th generation Intel CPUs will likely be a noticeable amount slower due to the way Intels all core turbo works and cooling solutions not being able to keep up. A 65w tdp on something like an i7 8700 is only possible at lower clock speeds in an all core turbo scenario.

 

That's why you spend a few quid more for the K :)

 

 

We have been pointing people at the 8700K on the Premiere Pro Hardware forum, because it wipes the floor with Threadripper and high end i9X systems for Photoshop and After Effects, and doesn't do badly with PremPro which can make good use of lots of threads, but what we didn't realise until recently, is that it only has 16 PCIe lanes.   Video editing generates a huge amount of data — especially 4K.  It also takes ages to edit, and losing a project is unthinkable, so need lots of backup.  That means you need all your SATA ports, M.2 ports, although you don't need multiple GPUs. 

 

https://forums.adobe.com/message/10065725#10065725





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  #1931103 6-Jan-2018 00:22
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I don't think many people who buy a 8700K are going to do 8K CGI video editing, but point taken.





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  #1931107 6-Jan-2018 01:38
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biggal:

 

looking build a new pc I have $1500 to spend

 

not for gamming no over clocking

 

so far i picked a Intel Core i5-8400 2.8 GHz CPU

 

and about 8 gb ram

 

now need a

 

motherboard

 

sdd

 

hard drive

 

gpu 

 

and case with room for 4 hard drives and ssd and dvd writer dont need fancy lights etc

 

 

 

what would you get ??

 

must be from a nz site

 

thanks

 

 

Something like this, a bit over your budget, but not sure what you are going to do with the PC, can probably do without the GPU, maybe get a smaller HDD? maybe get a older gen CPU 7 series so you can get a cheaper motherboard ect.

 

It comes down to preference also, these are what I would pick:

 

 

 

$88.00 - Case - Deepcool Tesseract SW Mid Tower Case with Window

 

The case was a tough one as I looked for the cheapest one that fit your requirements, picking a case comes down to requirements and personal taste.

 

 

 

$199.00 - PSU - EVGA SuperNOVA 650 G1 650W 80+ Gold Full Modular Power supply , 10 year limited warranty

 

The PSU I picked due to the efficiency, warranty and brand, I have the 1000W big brother of this and it's been good to me. Depending on the GPU you pick you can get a 500W instead to save on money.

 

 

 

$240.35 - Motherboard - Gigabyte Z370-HD3 ATX Form Factor, For Intel 8th Gen Coffee Lake LGA1151, 4x DDR4 - 4000Ghz, M.2/SATA USB3.1, HDMI DVI.

 

Motherboard is unfortunately expensive and a possible waste to your requirements due to the CPU you have picked.

 

 

 

$339.00 - CPU - Intel Coffee Lake Core i5 8400 6 Core 2.8Ghz 9MB Cache, LGA 1151 6 Core/ 6 Threads, , Intel 300 Series Motherboard required

 

Chosen per your request, it's a beast, maybe too much for your needs.

 

 

 

$155.25 - RAM 1 x 8 - Crucial 8GB DESKTOP DDR4 2400 MT/s (PC4-19200) CL17 SR x8 Unbuffered DIMM 288pin DDR4 Platform ONLY

 

Chosen mostly due to have the ability to add another 8GB in the future, I don't recommend any PC these days with less than 16GB of RAM, you can save yourself some money and get 2x4GB sticks instead, your preference.

 

 

 

$228.25 - GPU - Gigabyte GeForce GTX1050 Graphics Card 2GB GDDR5 Low Profile 3 Years Warranty

 

I honestly was at a loss on this due to not knowing what you need the PC for. There are much cheaper options but I would recommend you use the iGPU for now (as it's pretty good) and will save your money for now.

 

 

 

$166.75 - SSD - Samsung 850 EVO MZ-75E250BW 250GB , 3D V-NAND, SATA III 6GB/s, R/W(Max) 540MB/s/520MB/s, 97K/88K IOPS, 2.5". 7mm, 5 Years Warranty

 

I prefer Samsung SSD's due to the brand and speed, but you can save some dollhairs and get a cheaper brand one for like $30 cheaper.

 

 

 

$201.25 - HDD - Seagate BarraCuda 4TB SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" 256MB Cache, 5900RPM,Internal Hard Drive( 2 years warranty )

 

My personal preference, I have seen much more Western Digital HDD's fail than Seagate, I also would not get less than a 4TB drive these days, if you want to save money get a smaller one.

 

 

 

$28.75 - ODD - LG GH24NSD1 SATA Internal SATA DVD WRITER Black colour , OEM package

 

Simple, cheap, gets the job done.

 

 

 

Total: $1,881.80 (including GST)

 

 

 

If you are in the Auckland area I can help build the PC for you, PM me if interested.


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  #1931136 6-Jan-2018 08:43
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Anyone really use a DVD writer these days ? I havent had one for about 4 years now. Think theres one in my server (could just be CDRW) but never touch it. 32GB USB stick has kinda made them redundant :)





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  #1931140 6-Jan-2018 08:48
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xpd:

 

Anyone really use a DVD writer these days ? I havent had one for about 4 years now. Think theres one in my server (could just be CDRW) but never touch it. 32GB USB stick has kinda made them redundant :)

 

 

I have one but have so far never used it for anything! Would like a Blu Ray drive though.





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