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Tinkerisk

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#231824 14-Mar-2018 21:36
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For all you tinkerers within community: https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-3-model-b-plus/

 

 

 

RPi3+ in short:

 

- 1.4 GHz CPU speed (instead of 1.2 GHz)

 

- 1 Gbit/s LAN chip (but limited to ~310Mbit/s net due to I/F restrictions)

 

- 2.4 and 5 GHz WiFi (eff. ~100 Mbit/s for the latter)

 

- BT 4.2

 

- Network & Mass storage bootable by default

 

- Improved heat management

 

- PoE power supply (with add-on board)

 

- Same price





- ISP1: OneBox FTTH modem, 1/.5G, full DS, VLAN7, VoIP + ipTV streaming flat
- ISP2: LTE USB modem + GL-AR750S, 100/40M data plan (wireless fallback)
- NET: OPNsense CI329, ES-16-XG, CRS305, C2960X-48TS, 3 GWN7630, 2 UPS
- SVR: 9i3C246 32G/24T, 2 H2 16G/500G, N2 4G/4T | remote DS720+ 10G/14T
- USR: DeskMini 9i5, NUC 8i7HVK, Aspire E5, EliteBook 840, Galaxy Tab, 4K TV
- IoT (EU868): openHAB, CCU3, Vantage ISS 6327, LoRaWAN 4 GWs/15 Nodes
- 3D: 2 Ender-3/Pro, 4 Ultimaker 2E+/3/3+/S5, MPCNC, EleksLaser-A3 Pro
- ipPBX: GO-Box, 2 GRP2613, SPA112 (for Fax & W-48, a 1948 Siemens phone)


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elpenguino
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  #1976779 14-Mar-2018 21:49
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An improved network speed will be welcome.

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  #1976781 14-Mar-2018 21:50
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Pity there's no SATA, but still a nice little upgrade. Hopefully it doesn't break any apps like the original Pi 3 did.


 
 
 
 


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  #1976784 14-Mar-2018 21:56
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Older model PI's already made great media players (with KODI/OSMC) - This newer model even better.

 

I see there has been an Android port available for a while (hadn't noticed that).

 

https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/android-raspberry-pi/

 

 





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  #1976836 14-Mar-2018 23:26
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robjg63:

 

Older model PI's already made great media players (with KODI/OSMC) - This newer model even better.

 

I see there has been an Android port available for a while (hadn't noticed that).

 

https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/android-raspberry-pi/

 

 

ahhhh very interesting. must have a fiddle.


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  #1976855 15-Mar-2018 04:15

elpenguino: An improved network speed will be welcome.

 

 

 

It isn't the full 1GHz Ethernet though.

 

The network still shares the bus with the the USB2.0.

 

The claim is about 300Mbs on the Ethernet.

 

Of course when you look at the rest of the RasPi hardware, then it can't sustain that sort of read/write for long anyway.

 

It still seems like a useful stage upgrade to the Pi.

 

Pi 3+ is a good name.

 

I hope for a Pi 4 with USB3.0 and 1GHZ network:)

 

 


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  #1976857 15-Mar-2018 04:42
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JWR:

 

I hope for a Pi 4 with USB3.0 and 1Gbit network:)

 

 

... and 4GB RAM and 2x SATA III and 6 Cores and more expensive ... and you call it Odroid-N1:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAKgOgaNY3k (existent, release planned for mid year)





- ISP1: OneBox FTTH modem, 1/.5G, full DS, VLAN7, VoIP + ipTV streaming flat
- ISP2: LTE USB modem + GL-AR750S, 100/40M data plan (wireless fallback)
- NET: OPNsense CI329, ES-16-XG, CRS305, C2960X-48TS, 3 GWN7630, 2 UPS
- SVR: 9i3C246 32G/24T, 2 H2 16G/500G, N2 4G/4T | remote DS720+ 10G/14T
- USR: DeskMini 9i5, NUC 8i7HVK, Aspire E5, EliteBook 840, Galaxy Tab, 4K TV
- IoT (EU868): openHAB, CCU3, Vantage ISS 6327, LoRaWAN 4 GWs/15 Nodes
- 3D: 2 Ender-3/Pro, 4 Ultimaker 2E+/3/3+/S5, MPCNC, EleksLaser-A3 Pro
- ipPBX: GO-Box, 2 GRP2613, SPA112 (for Fax & W-48, a 1948 Siemens phone)


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  #1976910 15-Mar-2018 06:28
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Waiting for more information on the PoE hat/add-on board. Basically these would be brilliant with PXE and PoE.. as long as the PoE add-on isn't prohibitively priced.





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  #1976920 15-Mar-2018 07:30
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This will make the Pi a much better VPN client.


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  #2052124 9-Jul-2018 16:52
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Tinkerisk:

 

JWR:

 

I hope for a Pi 4 with USB3.0 and 1Gbit network:)

 

 

... and 4GB RAM and 2x SATA III and 6 Cores and more expensive ... and you call it Odroid-N1:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAKgOgaNY3k (existent, release planned for mid year)

 

 

Bad news: the Odroid-N1 recently has been cancelled due to DDR3 RAM obsolescence reasons.

 

Good news: there will be an Odroid-N2 in Q4 this year with DDR4 RAM instead.

 

 

 

Back to topic:

 

When replacing a RPi3 with a RPi3+, don't expect a huge performance boost. It's just a "less slower" Pi than before but for some balanced applications it's just fine. The 1GB RAM limit sucks more and should be extended to 2GB at least.





- ISP1: OneBox FTTH modem, 1/.5G, full DS, VLAN7, VoIP + ipTV streaming flat
- ISP2: LTE USB modem + GL-AR750S, 100/40M data plan (wireless fallback)
- NET: OPNsense CI329, ES-16-XG, CRS305, C2960X-48TS, 3 GWN7630, 2 UPS
- SVR: 9i3C246 32G/24T, 2 H2 16G/500G, N2 4G/4T | remote DS720+ 10G/14T
- USR: DeskMini 9i5, NUC 8i7HVK, Aspire E5, EliteBook 840, Galaxy Tab, 4K TV
- IoT (EU868): openHAB, CCU3, Vantage ISS 6327, LoRaWAN 4 GWs/15 Nodes
- 3D: 2 Ender-3/Pro, 4 Ultimaker 2E+/3/3+/S5, MPCNC, EleksLaser-A3 Pro
- ipPBX: GO-Box, 2 GRP2613, SPA112 (for Fax & W-48, a 1948 Siemens phone)


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  #2064729 30-Jul-2018 02:47
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The 3+'s CPU is about as fast as an Athlon XP 2500+ right?

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  #2064755 30-Jul-2018 07:38
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JWR:

 

Pi 3+ is a good name.

 

 

Nah - should have called it the Pi 3.14

 

 

 

 


Tinkerisk

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  #2091286 16-Sep-2018 04:59
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Have been on a Maker Faire today and picked up a RPi 3B+ PoE HAT. Great addition when you have to supply a remote Pi via wired LAN.





- ISP1: OneBox FTTH modem, 1/.5G, full DS, VLAN7, VoIP + ipTV streaming flat
- ISP2: LTE USB modem + GL-AR750S, 100/40M data plan (wireless fallback)
- NET: OPNsense CI329, ES-16-XG, CRS305, C2960X-48TS, 3 GWN7630, 2 UPS
- SVR: 9i3C246 32G/24T, 2 H2 16G/500G, N2 4G/4T | remote DS720+ 10G/14T
- USR: DeskMini 9i5, NUC 8i7HVK, Aspire E5, EliteBook 840, Galaxy Tab, 4K TV
- IoT (EU868): openHAB, CCU3, Vantage ISS 6327, LoRaWAN 4 GWs/15 Nodes
- 3D: 2 Ender-3/Pro, 4 Ultimaker 2E+/3/3+/S5, MPCNC, EleksLaser-A3 Pro
- ipPBX: GO-Box, 2 GRP2613, SPA112 (for Fax & W-48, a 1948 Siemens phone)


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  #2091697 16-Sep-2018 21:57
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Tinkerisk:

 

Have been on a Maker Faire today and picked up a RPi 3B+ PoE HAT. Great addition when you have to supply a remote Pi via wired LAN.

 

 

Not even 24 hours later I have to refrain from my recommendation:

 

https://www.cnx-software.com/2018/09/14/raspberry-pi-poe-hat-power-issues/

 

The issue doesn't impact my specific use case but this is certainly not the only one for others. The RPi 3 has never been a serious use case for USB- and network demanding tasks but the issue even separates it even more from the widely available control applications left. It's becoming more and more an overpriced marketing gimmick and I'll stay away from now on. :-(





- ISP1: OneBox FTTH modem, 1/.5G, full DS, VLAN7, VoIP + ipTV streaming flat
- ISP2: LTE USB modem + GL-AR750S, 100/40M data plan (wireless fallback)
- NET: OPNsense CI329, ES-16-XG, CRS305, C2960X-48TS, 3 GWN7630, 2 UPS
- SVR: 9i3C246 32G/24T, 2 H2 16G/500G, N2 4G/4T | remote DS720+ 10G/14T
- USR: DeskMini 9i5, NUC 8i7HVK, Aspire E5, EliteBook 840, Galaxy Tab, 4K TV
- IoT (EU868): openHAB, CCU3, Vantage ISS 6327, LoRaWAN 4 GWs/15 Nodes
- 3D: 2 Ender-3/Pro, 4 Ultimaker 2E+/3/3+/S5, MPCNC, EleksLaser-A3 Pro
- ipPBX: GO-Box, 2 GRP2613, SPA112 (for Fax & W-48, a 1948 Siemens phone)


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  #2091700 16-Sep-2018 22:03
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Makes me feel better that I instead just stuck with cheap aliexpress power over ethernet adapters, and have had no problems with them for pi use, or camera use.





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  #2091703 16-Sep-2018 22:08
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richms:

 

Makes me feel better that I instead just stuck with cheap aliexpress power over ethernet adapters, and have had no problems with them for pi use, or camera use.

 

 

Yes, I agree and use them by default for PoE (the 1Gb/s versions as well). This time I needed a compact solution build-in to the original supported case (yes it fits into).





- ISP1: OneBox FTTH modem, 1/.5G, full DS, VLAN7, VoIP + ipTV streaming flat
- ISP2: LTE USB modem + GL-AR750S, 100/40M data plan (wireless fallback)
- NET: OPNsense CI329, ES-16-XG, CRS305, C2960X-48TS, 3 GWN7630, 2 UPS
- SVR: 9i3C246 32G/24T, 2 H2 16G/500G, N2 4G/4T | remote DS720+ 10G/14T
- USR: DeskMini 9i5, NUC 8i7HVK, Aspire E5, EliteBook 840, Galaxy Tab, 4K TV
- IoT (EU868): openHAB, CCU3, Vantage ISS 6327, LoRaWAN 4 GWs/15 Nodes
- 3D: 2 Ender-3/Pro, 4 Ultimaker 2E+/3/3+/S5, MPCNC, EleksLaser-A3 Pro
- ipPBX: GO-Box, 2 GRP2613, SPA112 (for Fax & W-48, a 1948 Siemens phone)


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