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#243565 18-Dec-2018 15:09
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Hi,

 

I received an email this morning purporting to be from Microsoft, saying I had important documents on my OneDrive.

 

 

 

 

 

 

It looks similar to this :

 

https://www.hoax-slayer.net/onedrive-docusign-this-document-phishing-scam/

 

 

 

My instincts are saying delete.

 

Your feedback would be appreciated.

 

Thank you.





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  #2147182 18-Dec-2018 15:13
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Yeah that looks suspect. "account authentication may be required" doesn't help!

 

From my limited MSN experience, an internal sender wouldn't have a Jeffdewalk@msn.com address. 

 

Also are you expecting files from a Jeff dewalk? 

 

Also Microsoft is Redmond based, not in downtown Seattle too. 




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  #2147185 18-Dec-2018 15:15
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I am not expecting files from anyone, let alone a Jeff.





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  #2147187 18-Dec-2018 15:16
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It certainly is a scam.  DELETE

 

I bet that View in OneDrive link leads to a dodgy site.  




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  #2147190 18-Dec-2018 15:30
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Thank you, I have deleted it.

 

Would I have got that email by chance, or do bad people know the email address associated with my OneDrive account?





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  #2147251 18-Dec-2018 18:03
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Just hover over the link and it'll show you where its really directing you.





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  #2147254 18-Dec-2018 18:18
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IMO the number of scam emails I am now having to filter through, and some of them are now very legit looking, is almost making email worthless to me. Generally if I get any email with a link these days, I won't ever click on it. 


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  #2147256 18-Dec-2018 18:25
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mattwnz:

 

IMO the number of scam emails I am now having to filter through, and some of them are now very legit looking, is almost making email worthless to me. Generally if I get any email with a link these days, I won't ever click on it. 

 

 

You will get rid of most of the spam and these types of emails if you use Google Suite Mail (hosted email with your own domain at Google) or Gmail.

 

Hardly ever see any of the spam or phishing emails.





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  #2147352 18-Dec-2018 20:22
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So, let's break this down

 

  • Unexpected email

     

    • Do you know a Jeff de Walt?
    • Why is the display name 'MSN Team', but the email looks like it belongs to an individual. There is no '... on behalf of ...'.
    • Were you expecting to review any files?

       

      • As per Steve Gibson from grc.com; did you go looking for this data or did it arrive unsolicited?
    • (False) sense of urgency. This email arrives at 06:22 on the day that it expires. There is pressure on you to get this resolved soon / immediately.

       

      • Again (I think), thanks to Steve Gibson
      • Generally, you have either a week or a month time to review files, not 18 hrs.
    • Where do the links point to?

       

      • Not only the 'View in OneDrive' button, but all links. I've seen emails were every single link points to the same URL
      • If you can't see the links, see next item
    • View the raw email itself

       

      • In Outlook.com, click the 3 button 'More actions' menu link, then choose 'View message details'
      • In Gmail.com, click the 3 button 'More' menu link, then choose 'Show original'
      • This will reveal the true destination of hyperlinks. Find all 'a href=' occurrences
      • Analyse the header to identify the source server. I like MxToolBox. There also is Messageheader, Message Header Analyser or do your own search

         

        • If it's SPAM / a scam / phishing email; more often than not it will
        • originate outside of the sending domains servers (based on FQDN & IP address range)
        • the originating server will be generic, not identifiable, such as 'localhost' or '127.0.0.1'
    • 'account authentication may be required' - Sounds very dodgy
    • 00 Pine Street, Suite 352

       

      • Google Street View of 1 Pine Street, Seattle, WA, USA does not look corporate enough to have a 'Suite 352'
        Click to see full size
      • '00' as a Street number?
      • Again, knoydart is correct in pointing out that there is no mention of Redmond
    • The subject mentions the singular 'document' while the body of the email mentions the multiple 'two (2) document'
  • OneDrive Pro

     

    • Do you have a OneDrive Pro account?
    • There used to be a SkyDrive Pro product, now known as OneDrive for Business
    • Microsoft naming conventions aside, previous experience tells me Microsoft would not make the mistake of spelling 'pro' in OneDrive pro' with a lowercase p.
  • @msn.com email address

     

    • Previously, you could get these as easily as @hotmail.com
    • As knoydart said, if @msn.com was available to the public, MSN staff would not have such a work email

 

 

Man o man, that was a lot of armchair refereeing. wink While you certainly don't have to do all of these on a suspicious email, combinations of the above will help filter out the 'legit looking ones' as per mattwnz.

 

 





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  #2147355 18-Dec-2018 20:29
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jarledb: 
mattwnz: ... the number of scam emails I am now having to filter through, and some of them are now very legit looking ...
... use Google Suite Mail (hosted email with your own domain at Google) or Gmail.
Hardly ever see any of the spam or phishing emails.

 

jarledb, I agree with you. Gmail SPAM filters are magnitudes better than those offered by Microsoft / Outlook.com. While Google certainly is a solution, it is not an option available to everyone; be that because of their own choice or the choice or their employer.





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^ You missed "This mail is from a trusted sender." tongue-out


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  #2147397 18-Dec-2018 21:06
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The typos alone indicate scam "OneDrive pro Folder" then "One Drive"

 

Just hover over the URL and if it is not a Microsoft URL then it's a scam. 

 

If you are not expecting a document from this unknown person then it's a scam.





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  #2147434 18-Dec-2018 21:49
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thanks @lcl , I shall use that checklist for all future dodgy looking emails.

 

Thanks also to everyone else for their advice, much appreciated.





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  #2147439 18-Dec-2018 21:54
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I am amazed that anyone would have to ask if that is a scam or not. It screams scam.





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richms:

 

I am amazed that anyone would have to ask if that is a scam or not. It screams scam.

 

 

I hope it feels good.

 

 


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  #2147539 19-Dec-2018 07:50
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richms:

 

I am amazed that anyone would have to ask if that is a scam or not. It screams scam.

 

 

No it doesn't, not to everyone. If everyone had the requisite skills, there would be no reason for Geekzone to exist.


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