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# 253225 1-Aug-2019 19:57
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Hello,


Following on from this thread in 2016:


https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=37&topicid=193735


Looking to replace my laptop with a desktop preferably and I'm thinking ex-lease before new.


Any recommended places to visit and see their selection?


Background - current laptop is just slow with editing my drone photos in Adobe Lightroom and stops when i try and play the 4k footage. Not a gamer so after something that covers everyday computing and image/video editing.


Thanks in advance for any help.





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  # 2287369 1-Aug-2019 19:59
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Apologies moderators just noticed i placed this in the wrong forum. Can you please move it to Desktop Computing.

 

Thank you





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  # 2287387 1-Aug-2019 20:58
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I have purchased several at PBTech over the years ranging in price from $199 to $900. All Intel 'i' or 'U' series as I recall. No problems at all.


 
 
 
 




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  # 2287391 1-Aug-2019 21:24
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That’s where I’ve looked most and some of them don’t look too bad.




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  # 2287397 1-Aug-2019 21:51
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My business has moved to exclusively using (and selling to clients who want a used machine) exlease Dell PC's and laptops. I buy the CPU-only and pull the HDD and replace it with a Samsung Evo 860 SSD and put a graphics card in because Dell use Displayport and I prefer HDMI and because it performs better. Add new keyboard, mouse and new monitor as applicable and it's a winning combination.

 

Optiplex 9020 is the one you want to be looking at if it's a desktop you are after. The mini-tower or SFF (small form factor) are the ones you want to look at. AFAIK the USFF (ultra small form factor) has only 1 RAM slot and can't accept an external graphics card.

 

Only thing to keep in mind with Dell is some parts are a bit propriatory in terms of fit.





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  # 2287454 2-Aug-2019 08:49
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DamageInc: ... Any recommended places to visit and see their selection? ...

 

In no specific order

 

 





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  # 2287455 2-Aug-2019 08:57
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Also bear in mind prices for this sort of stuff can vary by quite a bit and I would recommend not getting the cheapest or buying from any general used goods company. There is e-waste grade and ex-lease grade. The later is around the $300 mark for an Optiplex 9020 or equivalent I-5. +$100 for an I-7. (Prices approx).

 

I have come across e-waste Dell and we don't sell it. It typically has screws missing, is damaged, or otherwise doesn't look like a new/near-new item.





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  # 2287477 2-Aug-2019 09:29
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Keep in mind...

 

Ex lease Brand name PC's (Hp Lenovo Dell etc) might be using non standard parts , especially the SFF
When out of warranty , that makes them near impossible to repair (economically) if its anything other than HD

 

Ive seen the most stupid non standard connectors on brand name PC's , for no good reason, even on brand name Tower PC's.
That means I sometimes cant use an industry standard power supply even to just test the thing
I'll never buy or supply another .


 
 
 
 


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  # 2287479 2-Aug-2019 09:34
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Depending on the quality of your footage, editing in Adobe won’t be considered everyday usage.

Ideally the i7 from these ex-lease (ivy bridge 3770 in most cases) will be good to get along with enough memory to support your photo editing.

Only issue with these things is that they’re pushing 6-7 years already. Don’t be surprised if it suddenly dies in the next year or so.

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Check out the Dell 5600/5610/7600/7810 type Xeons. I recently bought a Dual 12 core Xeon with 128GB RAM and 8GB GFX card (great for video - about GTX1050 gaming performance) for a bit over 2 grand I think. In any case, total bargain. I see NZ PC clearance has some dual core Xeons at the moment.

 

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  # 2287588 2-Aug-2019 11:18
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ANglEAUT:

 

DamageInc: ... Any recommended places to visit and see their selection? ...

 

In no specific order

 

 

 

 

Blinkin' heck so many to pick from





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  # 2287596 2-Aug-2019 11:23
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SpartanVXL: Depending on the quality of your footage, editing in Adobe won’t be considered everyday usage.

Ideally the i7 from these ex-lease (ivy bridge 3770 in most cases) will be good to get along with enough memory to support your photo editing.

Only issue with these things is that they’re pushing 6-7 years already. Don’t be surprised if it suddenly dies in the next year or so.

 

My inexperience speaking here - is there much difference between the i5 & i7? 





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  # 2287599 2-Aug-2019 11:25
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SpartanVXL:

 


Only issue with these things is that they’re pushing 6-7 years already. Don’t be surprised if it suddenly dies in the next year or so.

 

Not at all.

 

There are plenty of 3 - 4 year old machines and if you computers die at 6-7 years you should consider the quality of your componentry.





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  # 2287608 2-Aug-2019 11:34
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I can thoroughly recommend NZ Laptops. Good prices and fantastic service, both with sales and parts.


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  # 2287613 2-Aug-2019 11:55
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DamageInc:

SpartanVXL: Depending on the quality of your footage, editing in Adobe won’t be considered everyday usage.

Ideally the i7 from these ex-lease (ivy bridge 3770 in most cases) will be good to get along with enough memory to support your photo editing.

Only issue with these things is that they’re pushing 6-7 years already. Don’t be surprised if it suddenly dies in the next year or so.


My inexperience speaking here - is there much difference between the i5 & i7? 



The i7 will get you hyperthreading, 4c 8t over the i5 which only has 4c 4t.

Not at all.

There are plenty of 3 - 4 year old machines and if you computers die at 6-7 years you should consider the quality of your componentry.


Of course if they are haswell/devils canyon spec machines go for those since they’re not that old.

Entirely reasonable for motherboards(common point of failure after disk & memory) to start failing around the 6-8 year mark. Combination of high system on-time, temperatures and crappy power delivery can cause it to start flaking out. With ex-lease you never know what you’re getting unless you find out where it’s from.

There is a reason most places only give a 3-6month warranty from dat of sale.

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Just buy this (after confirming it really is dual CPU)... The thread speed is Decent but not brilliant for new games (still fine) but for your described use, it's a great solution. You might end up wanting to put a g=better GFX card in, but again, for productivity work it's great.

 

https://www.nzpcclearance.co.nz/product/dell-precision-t7810-workstation/

 

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