Upgrading i5 2500K

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keriboi

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#267912 17-Feb-2020 18:57

So my mighty 2500K just inst cutting it. I wish to keep my case, gpu (970 gtx) and psu (750w)

I run the free version of Davinci Resolve and Photoshop work. Play the odd game(PUBG, Star Wars fallen order)

Im looking at the following:

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Processor

Gigabyte X570 GAMING X Gaming Motherboard

G.Skill Trident Z Neo RGB 32GB (2x16GB) Kit DDR4-3600 CL16

Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD

Seagate Barracuda 4TB 256MB SATA3 Hard Drive

Looking to last me about 6-10 years with a gpu update at some stage. I seem to be fine with 16gb ram now but might as well get 32gb while I can.
Picking the AMD is currently best bang for buck?
Any thoughts?

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#2422683 17-Feb-2020 19:09

I brought pretty much the same thing except i went with a Ryzen 5 3600.

whats your budget?

keriboi

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#2422684 17-Feb-2020 19:10

up to $2500 . THis is about 1800

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#2422700 17-Feb-2020 19:21

IMO dont try and build a computer to last 6-10 years build it to last 3-5 then upgrade it again

keriboi

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#2422846 18-Feb-2020 07:54

That would be nice but with two young kids not an option :(

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#2422864 18-Feb-2020 08:26

Jase2985:

IMO dont try and build a computer to last 6-10 years build it to last 3-5 then upgrade it again

keriboi:

That would be nice but with two young kids not an option :(

I think in the long run you'll find by doing this you can choose cheaper better "bang for buck" components, sell components when you upgrade, and end up no worse off perhaps even save money.

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Dugimodo

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#2422870 18-Feb-2020 08:38

My main comment is unless you plan on pushing overclocks to the limit there's not much to be gained from the more expensive or gaming branded motherboards. They do tend to have a few more features and be a bit nicer but at stock clocks or a minor overclock there is no performance advantage.

For example as a gamer I personally could get more value from a cheaper motherboard, 16GB of RAM, and spending the savings on a better graphics card. But keeping your old GPU means this is not a concern for you at this stage so if you just want the nicer motherboard go for it.

Your GPU will limit the gaming performance a bit and you won't be pushing that CPU at all in the games you mention.

I have a 2700X & a GTX1070 and my CPU is under 50% utilised in most games still.

keriboi

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#2422999 18-Feb-2020 09:45

Yeah. I more wanted the faster processor for Photoshop and Resolve. I went for the better MB for the two m2 slots. I would add another 1TB down the track. I want one quick system drive and one quick scratch drive

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#2423012 18-Feb-2020 10:14

Am far from an expert, having actually built a total of one PC, but I went for something pretty similar late last year, with the addition of a 1660Super graphics card, and it does everything (well Handbrake stuff) about 4 times faster than my (very) old previous i5-4570 machine.

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SpartanVXL

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#2423018 18-Feb-2020 10:26

I’ll have to concur with above, seems a bit unbalanced for gaming.

Extra ram is good for photoshop or media editing but otherwise not necessary for gaming yet. 16GB CL16 is considered minimum so you could save a bit if cash there, but up to your needs.

The gaming x mobo is considered low end x570, you ideally want to get something from aorus line(elite/pro if sticking with Gigabyte). Getting a decent b450 motherboard is considered a far better deal, only if you really need pcie4 or etc. on the x570 then you get a x570.

3700x is great, just wait for the next lot of sales. Last christmas the 3800x dropped to the similar price as 3700x which annoyed a bunch of people, the 3800x is binned better so for $10 or so difference then get it.

Samsung nvme is very good but pricey, unless you explicitly need the i/o for media editing then it might be better to drop the size or switch to a cheaper option like the crucial p1

With the cash difference I would get rid of your 970 now if you can and upgrade to a secondhand 1070/ti if you can find one.

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#2423072 18-Feb-2020 11:04

Jase2985:

IMO dont try and build a computer to last 6-10 years build it to last 3-5 then upgrade it again

I'd disagree
Most average users dont NEED to replace perfectly good PC's every 3-5 years.
If it runs OK, and the OS is still current , use it till it dies . Just factor in cost of maybee a new HD or PSU over that time (if they die).

If you want a gaming PC ,for the latest games , thats a different story . Expect to keep throwing $$ at it

:-)

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#2423082 18-Feb-2020 11:32

1101:
Jase2985:

IMO dont try and build a computer to last 6-10 years build it to last 3-5 then upgrade it again

I'd disagree
Most average users dont NEED to replace perfectly good PC's every 3-5 years.
If it runs OK, and the OS is still current , use it till it dies . Just factor in cost of maybee a new HD or PSU over that time (if they die).

If you want a gaming PC ,for the latest games , thats a different story . Expect to keep throwing $$ at it

:-)

You’re right for regular users and normal pc’s. When it comes to components like we’re discussing then the 3(sometimes 2) year rule applies to retain value towards the next upgrade.

If you pick parts from performance brackets that tend to retain their value then it becomes a cycle of selling at a certain point in time to fund the next purchase. It’s a bit tedious and sometimes things come up that screw with it (intel cpu stagnation, gpu price spikes) but it generally comes down to watching the news on new releases and benchmarks.

So if you’re just gaming then a 2700x/3600/3700x is best value along with a v2 b450 (eg. Tomahawk MAX) with bigger bios memory. Later on you retire the cpu and drop in a 4xxx series into your am4 mobo. Then next generation you sell the platform because AMD will release a new socket (am5).

keriboi

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#2423083 18-Feb-2020 11:33

I want the Samsung EVO for its speed. I dont mind spending on this. Gaming will be very little. Only thing I am looking forward to is Cyberpunk. Pretty sure my 970 will be good enough. I dont get to caught up on details as if theres too much going on I get motion sickness from some games.

I am mainly going to be editing videos off a Hero 8 Black filmed in 2.7k with some minor photoshop work. My current computer is fine for my photoshop use but editing videos is painful. I also run a plex server but this isnt so much now that I have netflix.

Do people still partition large hard drives? The 4TB is going to be enough for now

Ram wise I have never had a problem with my current 16gb but budget wise I can get 32gb. Currently sitting around 1800 of my 2500 budget.

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#2423092 18-Feb-2020 11:57

keriboi:
I want the Samsung EVO for its speed. I dont mind spending on this. Gaming will be very little. Only thing I am looking forward to is Cyberpunk. Pretty sure my 970 will be good enough. I dont get to caught up on details as if theres too much going on I get motion sickness from some games.

I am mainly going to be editing videos off a Hero 8 Black filmed in 2.7k with some minor photoshop work. My current computer is fine for my photoshop use but editing videos is painful. I also run a plex server but this isnt so much now that I have netflix.

Do people still partition large hard drives? The 4TB is going to be enough for now

Ram wise I have never had a problem with my current 16gb but budget wise I can get 32gb. Currently sitting around 1800 of my 2500 budget.

Okay so sounds like media work is higher priority, disregard above as your inital build is fine. May want to consider a pcie4 add in card for nvme drives versus getting x570. B450 has majority of functionality and is cheaper for a am4 platform, x570 is just easier to buy :)

May want to consider a good monitor if you have leftover budget (and haven’t got one already).

On windows don’t really partition off physical hdd’s unless you need to.

keriboi

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#2423101 18-Feb-2020 12:15

Changed processor to 3900X .

Now will my 750 watt RM750i gold be enough?

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#2423183 18-Feb-2020 14:28

Have that same power supply with a 3700x, 16gb ram, 1660 super, 500gb nvme, half a dozen hdd's, 2 dvd drives, and it seem fine to me.

TDP thing for the 3900x is only 30W more, if thats valid number to use.

Not exactly the most scientific reply though.

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