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blackjack17

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#299001 2-Aug-2022 13:19
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So my aging (7 years plus Frankenstein) desktop refused to turn on this morning.  Lights are on but no mobo beep or power to mouse or output to screens.

 

Would like to replace with something new.  Will reuse the drives but the rest is pretty ancient.

 

No games but lots of office applications, some specialised timetabling software but nothing to taxing.  Torrents and lots of research (i.e. lots of tabs open). Dual screen but no 4K

 

Would like something that will keep running for the next 5+ years.

 

Would something like this be worth it https://www.pbtech.co.nz/build/45599

 

  • DEEPCOOL MATREXX 55 Mesh ATX Mid Tower, $90
  • Intel Core i5 12400 CPU 6 Core $328
  • Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB RAM 2 X 8GB $129
  • ASRock B660 Pro RS ATX Form Factor $263
  • Cooler Master MWE 550W $97

Total $909

 

Otherwise any recommendations?





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rb99
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  #2949704 2-Aug-2022 13:39
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No idea if its good or not, but unless the drives you're keeping includes a NVME type already, I'd add one.





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  #2949710 2-Aug-2022 13:40
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Without looking at the components, that's a decent CPU, that's enough RAM, and 550W is more than enough - you could probably do 200W and be fine for a basic computer. Add an SSD and you'll have a good modern computer :)


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  #2949735 2-Aug-2022 14:34
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blackjack17:

 

So my aging (7 years plus Frankenstein) desktop refused to turn on this morning.  Lights are on but no mobo beep or power to mouse or output to screens.

 

Would like to replace with something new.  Will reuse the drives but the rest is pretty ancient.

 

No games but lots of office applications, some specialised timetabling software but nothing to taxing.  Torrents and lots of research (i.e. lots of tabs open). Dual screen but no 4K

 

Would like something that will keep running for the next 5+ years.

 

Would something like this be worth it https://www.pbtech.co.nz/build/45599

 

  • DEEPCOOL MATREXX 55 Mesh ATX Mid Tower, $90
  • Intel Core i5 12400 CPU 6 Core $328
  • Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB RAM 2 X 8GB $129
  • ASRock B660 Pro RS ATX Form Factor $263
  • Cooler Master MWE 550W $97

Total $909

 

Otherwise any recommendations?

 

 

Your old drives would be a reliability weak point with severe consequences of failure, and will be slow. SSD is cheap these days so why not get some and clone your old drives onto them?




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  #2949751 2-Aug-2022 15:16
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johno1234:

 

blackjack17:

 

So my aging (7 years plus Frankenstein) desktop refused to turn on this morning.  Lights are on but no mobo beep or power to mouse or output to screens.

 

Would like to replace with something new.  Will reuse the drives but the rest is pretty ancient.

 

No games but lots of office applications, some specialised timetabling software but nothing to taxing.  Torrents and lots of research (i.e. lots of tabs open). Dual screen but no 4K

 

Would like something that will keep running for the next 5+ years.

 

Would something like this be worth it https://www.pbtech.co.nz/build/45599

 

  • DEEPCOOL MATREXX 55 Mesh ATX Mid Tower, $90
  • Intel Core i5 12400 CPU 6 Core $328
  • Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB RAM 2 X 8GB $129
  • ASRock B660 Pro RS ATX Form Factor $263
  • Cooler Master MWE 550W $97

Total $909

 

Otherwise any recommendations?

 

 

Your old drives would be a reliability weak point with severe consequences of failure, and will be slow. SSD is cheap these days so why not get some and clone your old drives onto them?

 

 

The current OS is on a 256 samsung evo (an 870 I think), the other HDs are for torrenting.

 

Would I notice a difference moving the OS to a NVME type drive as someone mentioned earlier?

 

The current desktop really is a mongrel, case a good 15 years old power supply at least 10 the rest is a mix of parts.

 

 





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  #2949835 2-Aug-2022 19:19
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Common sense is not as common as you think.


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  #2949838 2-Aug-2022 19:27
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Pt above is micro ATX board.

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  #2950082 3-Aug-2022 10:18
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Adding the components and I notice that the mini-ITX form of the motherboard is $30s cheaper with included wifi and bluetooth

 

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/MBDASR22620/ASRock-B660M-ITXac-DDR4-ITX-Form-Factor-For-Intel 

 

vs 

 

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/MBDASR22637/ASRock-B660-Pro-RS-ATX-Form-Factor-For-Intel-12th

 

am i correct in assuming the smaller one would be better as it isn't a gaming rig and i won't need the extra connections that the larger MB has?







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  #2950092 3-Aug-2022 10:35
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If you have no intention to upgrade in the future, have you considered a mini PC, like Lenovo Tiny or similar?





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  #2950108 3-Aug-2022 10:52
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Kookoo:

 

If you have no intention to upgrade in the future, have you considered a mini PC, like Lenovo Tiny or similar?

 

 

I have a couple of 4tb hard drives in it for torrenting.  Plus I like being able to chop and change over time as needed.

 

I do have an old ex lease mini format pc which I use as a media pc in the movie room but this is more a work PC / research / accounts / torrent machine





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  #2950119 3-Aug-2022 11:13
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shrub:

 

This box will work https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/WKSPB14511/PB-AMD-Upgrade-box-14511-AMD-Ryzen-5-5600G-6-Core 

 

 

Looks like that is a little cheaper plus gets an extra harddrive than the intel system (the below is $815).

 

Will windows have an issue going from an intel to to an amd computer?

 





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  #2950128 3-Aug-2022 11:47
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Don't actually know about ssd vs nvme speed. I had a quick google and one site had Win 10 boot times basically the same and one had actual read / write performance 2 to 5 times faster. Depends on the test you pick and whats important to you I suppose. I'd get NVME if you have to money, but if not, its not the huge improvement you get with ssd over hdd.





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  #2950135 3-Aug-2022 12:00
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blackjack17:

 

shrub:

 

This box will work https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/WKSPB14511/PB-AMD-Upgrade-box-14511-AMD-Ryzen-5-5600G-6-Core 

 

 

Looks like that is a little cheaper plus gets an extra harddrive than the intel system (the below is $815).

 

Will windows have an issue going from an intel to to an amd computer?

 

 

 

 

 

Just realised the AMD price was excluding GST so it is actually nearly $100 more expensive (but includes a harddrive that I don't need)





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