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#299109 11-Aug-2022 14:09

According to trademe they are legitimate dealers selling genuine product I checked. Talking about office 2021, There are a significant number selling the product for $50 -120 , a quarter of what you can buy it at one of many bricks and mortar places for $350-450.

So I took a punt and bought a deal. Got it for $36 office 2021 pro. I then got an email with a mindbending full page document as to how to install including contact with msoft.

Now my question if I buy a 3-400 version from say harvey normans will I have the same amount of work to remove the old and install the new?

any one installed either way?

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#2953511 11-Aug-2022 14:19

What did you buy? Did you end up with an individual seat from some business's volume license?

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#2953512 11-Aug-2022 14:23

Pretty sure if you buy from a store, you get a code that you put into the Office webpage that runs the installer and does it all for you (after you've created a MS account if you don't already have one).

I did it for my Sister-in-law a few weeks ago, very easy.

It didn't come with any pages of instructions, just a code for (I think) office.com, but I didn't even need to go to a webpage as she had a new laptop that I just opened office from the start menu and entered the code.

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#2953520 11-Aug-2022 14:43

Have you looked into an annual sub for MS 365?

Just this week I renewed our 365 Personal sub - this is the most basic but it does all we need (Office for one user on laptop, mobile, couple of iPads; 1TB of OneDrive storage) and cost $89 from Paradigm PCs. Simply a code they email to you, so no need for a physical product.

At 24c a day it's really not worth mucking about with potentially dodgy sources; given it also comes with the 1TB storage, we also don't need to pay for any additional cloud storage, making it even better value.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-nz/microsoft-365/buy/compare-all-microsoft-365-products

https://pp.co.nz/product/result/ppid/AA71703

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#2953556 11-Aug-2022 16:32

jonathan18:

Have you looked into an annual sub for MS 365?

Just this week I renewed our 365 Personal sub - this is the most basic but it does all we need (Office for one user on laptop, mobile, couple of iPads; 1TB of OneDrive storage) and cost $89 from Paradigm PCs. Simply a code they email to you, so no need for a physical product.

At 24c a day it's really not worth mucking about with potentially dodgy sources; given it also comes with the 1TB storage, we also don't need to pay for any additional cloud storage, making it even better value.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-nz/microsoft-365/buy/compare-all-microsoft-365-products

https://pp.co.nz/product/result/ppid/AA71703

The way that it is done seems exactly like the instructions given to me. There seems to be a major concern about making sure you have no office programs apps on machine before you do the load.

I wonder also what there idea of personal and commercial is?

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#2953559 11-Aug-2022 16:37

You can buy a full Office product subscription and it will cost from $99 to $200 depending on number of machines, if you are using Family, etc.

What do you get from Trade Me? I doubt is legit. It could be someone selling a code from a volume licence, enterprise or something similar. It might work. It might stop working. Most likely you won't have support.

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#2953570 11-Aug-2022 17:11

gnfb:

The way that it is done seems exactly like the instructions given to me. There seems to be a major concern about making sure you have no office programs apps on machine before you do the load.

I wonder also what there idea of personal and commercial is?

IIRC, the subscription version of 'Office' doesn't have a year attached to it, as you're buying the right to use it for that period of time, and you'll always have the most current version available during your sub period. (It's also not known as 'Office' anymore - just Microsoft 365.)

Perhaps it's just worth cutting your losses and buying something you know is legit?

As per the link in my earlier post, $89 a year is pretty reasonable.

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#2953571 11-Aug-2022 17:14

You read my mind ! I was just over at Microsoft looking at 365 as suggested.

At 67 I really should be old enough to know "that there is no free lunch!"

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#2953573 11-Aug-2022 17:23

gnfb:

You read my mind ! I was just over at Microsoft looking at 365 as suggested.

At 67 I really should be old enough to know "that there is no free lunch!"

Yep, I gave up a while back trying to do this on the real cheap - just more hassle than it's worth!

The $89 I quoted is from Paradigm; they'll charge a CC surcharge on top if you want to pay that way, but I had the code emailed to me the day after transferring the money via bank transfer.

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#2953623 11-Aug-2022 21:11

Office 365 Personal (one user) is NZ$ 119/year, directly from Microsoft. It is linked to your Microsoft account. It can be installed in five PCs.

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#2953627 11-Aug-2022 21:27

Today I bought MS 365 personal subscription from Ascent for $98.72.

Only about 3 hours between order and getting the code.

That was an upgrade from Office 2010 and 100GB Onedrive.

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#2953632 11-Aug-2022 21:51

You'll likely have purchased a "grey market" version, the instructions to remove all prior versions of office is so you don't have a conflict between a "retail" version and a VLK or similar licensed version. You may also be moving from 32 to 64 bit, so again clean it out.

Tool to do a clean out (Option 2) - https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/uninstall-office-from-a-pc-9dd49b83-264a-477a-8fcc-2fdf5dbf61d8 which links here https://aka.ms/SaRA-officeUninstallFromPC

So long as you are directed to download from Microsoft (not some random website) you should be ok.

But the 365 version is fairly cheap these days (but you'll still likely need to uninstall for current version first).

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#2953758 12-Aug-2022 09:56

I always just buy this https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/OFFMST1130/Microsoft-Office-2021-Home--Student-Medialess-for (under $200), then register to my Microsoft account. When I change to a new PC it auto installs and does not even delete from the old PC. Buy once and own forever. The alternative is the 365 One Year (up to 5 PC - see Link above, which I do not need). I can $29 per year for 100g one drive if want extra over what have now.

If buying for work, it is this one https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/OFFMST1135/Microsoft-Office-2021-Home--Business-Medialess-for (under $400 - but you can use the above for, say, a joint use laptop at home) and we have an account called micorosft@ourdomain which emails to me. Alternative the 365 Business

I prefer not to buy subscription office products for work as it adds up so fast. We would pay per month what I pay now per year. We don't use outlook to avoid being locked in as there are alternatives. Most won't agree with me, but I am too old school. We buy 1-2 pc max a year for work, and this is much, much less, and we can reinstall anytime. Office for the vast majority is basic Word and basic Excel if you exclude using Outlook (we use Thunderbird)

Been doing this way a long time and never had issues re-installing or adding a new licence. YMMV

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#2953760 12-Aug-2022 10:10

You've likely have been sold am MSDN / greymarket key.

The one way to tell is if the version installed is "Professional Plus" rather than just "Professional". Pro Plus & Standard are not retail products and can only be purchased as part of a comercial agreement (where each licence costs hundreds of dollars).
The grey market keys are typically "retail" MSDN keys which will activate & register against individual Microsoft accounts. VLK MAK keys wont register against a Microsoft account.

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#2953763 12-Aug-2022 10:24

Quick update The software activated by Microsft phone activation and able to log into my msoft account ok. says microsogt proffesional plus on the acount.

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#2953772 12-Aug-2022 10:58

The Professional 'Plus' is a dead giveaway that it's not legit.

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/all/microsoft-office-2021-professional-plus/af7098b2-1310-42dc-be4f-3ea4536987ca

"Hi Nadia, Microsoft Office 2021 Professional Plus purchased online are not legitimate. They are sold in contravention of the Microsoft licence. They may work for a long or short time but Microsoft will disable it."

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/all/microsoft-office-professional-plus-2021-lifetime/23374cf8-e9a7-4d68-8c04-c85dc9b161ab

"Office Professional Plus is a volume license not sold to individuals."

Sometimes when you go cheap, you have to 'pay twice' - I guess that's Karma.

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