Update to a 5800x3d or?

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RobDickinson

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#318386 13-Jan-2025 10:03

I have a 2019 build AM4 3700x build with a 2080s

Its probably getting close to upgrade time with the 50 series gpu's and I'll prob go for a 5070/5080 of some kind, gaming is mostly mmp/rpg at 4k few shooters now

I assume the 3700x will hold it back.

Is it worth trying to find a 5800x3d? Or just ditch the whole lot for a ryzen 9 setup?

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#3330821 13-Jan-2025 10:09

I think resolution is a big factor in this.

If you're playing 4k, get a 5700X3D/5800X3D, if you're playing 1440p you could really go either way but I'd say the 5700X3D is still fine but maybe consider the 9800X3D if you're playing eSports titles at high frame rates, if you're targeting high frame rates at 1080P, definitely go for a 9800X3D.

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#3330822 13-Jan-2025 10:10

5800X3D would be the most cost effective way of upgrading and keeping your PC up with the latest games for the next couple of years. Of course a new Ryzen 9xxxX3D will blow it out of the water, but that's a whole new platform which is $$$.

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#3330825 13-Jan-2025 10:14

toejam316:

I think resolution is a big factor in this.

If you're playing 4k, get a 5700X3D/5800X3D, if you're playing 1440p you could really go either way but I'd say the 5700X3D is still fine but maybe consider the 9800X3D if you're playing eSports titles at high frame rates, if you're targeting high frame rates at 1080P, definitely go for a 9800X3D.

yeah no competitive esports or anything, its all 4k visuals but the 2080s struggles at 4k for some things

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5800X3D would be the most cost effective way of upgrading and keeping your PC up with the latest games for the next couple of years. Of course a new Ryzen 9xxxX3D will blow it out of the water, but that's a whole new platform which is $$$.

Yeah I got 11 years out of my last platform! crazy. I cant see any 5800/5700s on tm now, anywhere else I could get?

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#3330826 13-Jan-2025 10:22

Seems like if you are getting 11 years, then spending the extra and going to the current generation of chips makes sense.

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#3330827 13-Jan-2025 10:27

That was my prior intel system, this one is a 2019 am4, I think a 5800x3d would stretch it but idk if its worth hunting one down or replacing the whole thing

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#3330828 13-Jan-2025 10:47

I did this, I had a 3700x and 2070 super in 2019 before covid prices came in. Then in late 2022 upgraded to 5800x3d and 4090.

It’s worth it because the 3700x suffered from CCX latency, and my one also sucked with max clocks enough that I regretted not getting the 3800x.

I can’t see anywhere with 5800x3d anymore or even the 5700x3d in stock, you can get the 5700x3d from amazon AU however from AMD as the seller.

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#3330830 13-Jan-2025 10:48

GPU side I guess is find a used 4080? IDK how likely that is or how much I trust a used gpu.

4090/5090 is too much and probably too much for my 850w psu?

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#3330832 13-Jan-2025 10:54

https://extremepc.co.nz/amd-ryzen-7-5700x3d-cpu-8-core-16-thread-am4-socket-oem-package-without-cooler/

5700x3d in stock??

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#3330839 13-Jan-2025 11:37

Unless you have something else drawing power, these CPU’s barely go over 100W or so. I run mine on a corsair rm850i with the corsair 12vhpwr cable.

5090 is going to be pretty high here, higher than a 4090. Either get a 4080 super second hand or look at the 5070 ti for new gen.

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#3330840 13-Jan-2025 11:40

5090 is too much card I dont need a 32gb AI card!

My mistake the psu is 750w (Corsair HX750 750W Full Modular 80 Plus Platinum Power Supply if it matters), cpu+240mm AIO + ssd + GPU and a couple of hdd's so nothing huge power draw really.

I expect the 5080s to be $2500+ which is about twice the 2019 2080s I bought :/

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#3330842 13-Jan-2025 11:47

Corsair HX750 is fine. 5070ti is in the sweet spot right now for how much card you get for the $. It will later be the super models that refresh the line in a year or so.

Take your pick, but go for the 5700x3d if you want a quick boost to min fps and mmo or strategy game performance. Otherwise you’ll need to move to am5 which may be better value in a year or two if they release another x3d sku.

Forgot to mention, ram performance still helps with x3d, try to have 3600MHz memory if you can. Also check SoC voltage if you do as some motherboard can overvolt the SoC at 3600MHz profiles, it should be in the 1.1-1.15v range.

If you have 3000/3200MHz no biggie, dont bother and save the money for ddr5 when you upgrade later.

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#3330845 13-Jan-2025 11:53

Motherboard is a Gigabyte X570 GAMING X ATX, early revision so I can bump the bios for support but I doubt its the best option..

Memory is Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 so I guess I could drop in some 3600?

I've not overclocked the 3700x at all either for now.

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#3330965 13-Jan-2025 13:40

Motherboard is fine, update it to get cpu support, memory is fine you can actually raise those to 3600 cl18 and get benefit of IF increase if you want, but keeping XMP is fine too.

With your cooler you’ll be good to keep a 5700x at max clocks.

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#3330968 13-Jan-2025 13:46

SpartanVXL: Corsair HX750 is fine. 5070ti is in the sweet spot right now for how much card you get for the $. It will later be the super models that refresh the line in a year or so.

Take your pick, but go for the 5700x3d if you want a quick boost to min fps and mmo or strategy game performance. Otherwise you’ll need to move to am5 which may be better value in a year or two if they release another x3d sku.

Forgot to mention, ram performance still helps with x3d, try to have 3600MHz memory if you can. Also check SoC voltage if you do as some motherboard can overvolt the SoC at 3600MHz profiles, it should be in the 1.1-1.15v range.

If you have 3000/3200MHz no biggie, dont bother and save the money for ddr5 when you upgrade later.

I am prepared to bet $5 that without a benchmark, there isn't a human who can tell the difference between 3200 and 3600 memory speed in a computer.

If you are buying new, perhaps, but you'd never upgrade from 3200 to 3600.

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#3330971 13-Jan-2025 13:52

Faster memory is usually a handful of percent faster in some things , but then often a handful of percent here and there can add up.

People often dont notice change until you double perf but this is more about a system to keep up with and make use of a gpu update

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