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Topic # 67025 27-Aug-2010 08:53
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-20014664-56.html?tag=contentMain;contentBody

Does anyone care about IE anymore? Surely FF, Opera and Chrome are the big players in the browser wars these days.

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  Reply # 373434 27-Aug-2010 08:56
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IE still has the biggest market share. Opera's desktop browser marketshare is literally nothing compared to their mobile browser's offering.

IE9 beta will release on 15th september. It's much faster than firefox and only ~20% slower can chrome. Will support add on's and also have a in built download manager.




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  Reply # 373435 27-Aug-2010 08:58
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But does it have a usable interface or do we go back 20 years to the Alt + mentality that seems to have come in with Win7..




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  Reply # 373436 27-Aug-2010 08:58
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Yes, it's very much relevant. Opera and Safari are drops in the ocean. Firefox better make it work ok, because it's losing ground to Chrome...





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  Reply # 373438 27-Aug-2010 09:07
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Another IE is a good thing, hopefully more IE6 users will upgrade. you can get most things working with IE7+ (having to use PNGs in place of css3 effects) but in ie6 we'll thats another story.

sadly im still getting about 20% traffic from IE6/winxp on my sites; can't really drop support for it until is around 5%...

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  Reply # 373441 27-Aug-2010 09:12
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reven: Another IE is a good thing, hopefully more IE6 users will upgrade. you can get most things working with IE7+ (having to use PNGs in place of css3 effects) but in ie6 we'll thats another story.

sadly im still getting about 20% traffic from IE6/winxp on my sites; can't really drop support for it until is around 5%...


surely if you dropped support, the people would find a compatible browser to use...." a la if you build it they will come" 

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  Reply # 373464 27-Aug-2010 10:06
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gehenna:
reven: Another IE is a good thing, hopefully more IE6 users will upgrade. you can get most things working with IE7+ (having to use PNGs in place of css3 effects) but in ie6 we'll thats another story.

sadly im still getting about 20% traffic from IE6/winxp on my sites; can't really drop support for it until is around 5%...


surely if you dropped support, the people would find a compatible browser to use...." a la if you build it they will come" 


i cant really afford to take that approach, i could be loosing 20% of my visitors since they would see my site is ugly and not want to hire me (web developer).  i've got to basically make it work completely in ie6, and look good, but i can live with a few differences and a few effects gone.

i just have lots of
* html, and * hacks for ie6/7 in my css :) 

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  Reply # 373488 27-Aug-2010 10:41
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IE9 is looking a lot more interesting than IE8 imo, it should be a decent upgrade.

They have really gone crazy bringing IE9 upto spec for CSS3 and HTML5 which is very nice!

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  Reply # 375161 1-Sep-2010 08:34
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billgates: IE still has the biggest market share. Opera's desktop browser marketshare is literally nothing compared to their mobile browser's offering.


IE9 beta will release on 15th september. It's much faster than firefox and only ~20% slower can chrome. Will support add on's and also have a in built download manager.


The question is, do we want IE users? Already people can't be bothered re-writing their website just for one silly company not sticking to or even implementing web standard features.

Those benchmarks were done with an inter-faceless web browser. =\

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  Reply # 375185 1-Sep-2010 09:45
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Krisando:
billgates: IE still has the biggest market share. Opera's desktop browser marketshare is literally nothing compared to their mobile browser's offering.


IE9 beta will release on 15th september. It's much faster than firefox and only ~20% slower can chrome. Will support add on's and also have a in built download manager.


The question is, do we want IE users? Already people can't be bothered re-writing their website just for one silly company not sticking to or even implementing web standard features.

Those benchmarks were done with an inter-faceless web browser. =\

I thought the whole point of IE9 was that MS have sort of woken up to the fact they can't just "do their own thing" anymore and expect to dominate the market. There's so much choice, so they're trying to compete on even terms. i.e. speed and quality. And by all accounts, they're doing a good job.

I don't understand the comment "Do want want IE users?" Surely any business to your website is good business if it's making you money. Most end-users don't care about what browser they use, as long as it works for them.




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I have downloaded the beta version of IE9 but I find myself going back to firefox. The marketing microsoft have done to make it shine (www.beautyoftheweb.com) made it seem fantastic to me. I did a few side by side comparisons with fire fox and ie9 distroyed fire fox when it cam to these specifily made sites. But then I tryed to write a email on gmail and attach a file, and it was terible. It took forever to render gmail, I had to refresh it and turn on compatbility mode to get it work and display correctly. Coundnt drag and drop a file into gmail to attach a file like you can in Chroum and Firefox. Then when I used the add file link to upload a attachment, the pop up window stopped responding, but what was interesting is that just the pop up window stopped responding , so when i ended task i still had my email in the browser.
Anyway i think IE9 still needs a bit of work. How have other people found it?

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  Reply # 381857 19-Sep-2010 13:36
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lol, it is a beta - one can use the 'send feedback' option and tell them of what sites are not working - hopefully they will fix it in the main release :)

Out of interest, for gmail, I had a similar issue, could not write any text in the main body of the email. However, clicking the compatibility mode icon seems to have resolved this. 

 

I get a similar issue in geekzone forums as well.  Except the font in the message box is very small.

 




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  Reply # 381889 19-Sep-2010 14:27
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Finally, a Microsoft Site that does not display under IE6 / 7


In fact, how could people still use IE6/7? 




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  Reply # 382078 20-Sep-2010 00:02
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Digg did a great survery asking why people are using IE6

http://about.digg.com/blog/much-ado-about-ie6



Interestingly IE9 won't run on Win XP so you are still going to see a large % of IE6/7 users until Win XP finally dies.

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  Reply # 382106 20-Sep-2010 07:45
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I tried IE 9 beta and was very impressed until it crashed and would crash everytime I restarted it. I was browsing a MS html5 site to try it out. I am running win7 64 bit.
I ended ip having to uninstall back to IE 8 which I don't use, I use firefox/chrome nomally. The beta was actually pretty slick while it worked v fast and smooth. Faster than chrome even.

Oh well. It is a beta after all.

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  Reply # 382107 20-Sep-2010 07:49
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Many corporations still use IE 6 for cost reasons. Heck, we still run win xp at work. It does what we need it to do. It's not all grandmas.

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