Nokia's upcoming annoucement on its strategy

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#438005 10-Feb-2011 21:27

Ovi Maps for android - Yay!!!

Well I can dream, it's the only thing I miss from my 5800.

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#438421 11-Feb-2011 19:18

You can watch the event live today at 11pm local time.

www.nokia.com/press

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#438437 11-Feb-2011 20:49

The partnership is now official. Nokia is going wp7. Awesome awesome news.

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2011/feb11/02-11partnership.mspx

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#438461 11-Feb-2011 22:28

Nokia is heading one step in the right direction at least.

It will be interesting next few years for the Finnish company, and weird to see a Windows OS running on hardware with Nokia logo...

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#440463 16-Feb-2011 21:24

There's been very little comment about this on the Symbian forum or the rest of the Geekzone site since the big announcement with most activity on here being on the Windows Mobile forum. However there's been a bit of acitivity on other sites, much of what I've read is from people anti to the Microsoft/Nokia alliance, with some people being very vocal.

I thought I'd put my thoughts in writing.

Right from the start I should point out that I don't think that Windows Mobile 7 is going to do anything for Nokia that Symbian or Meego could not have done with some tweaking and perhaps an OS name change, except perhaps help break into the North American market. However that might already be in doubt as there are already reports of one North American carrier refusing to deploy Nokia W7 mobile phones.

Who has the most to gain from this partnership? In my opinion Microsoft. They need to vastly increase their OS's market share. Nokia already had a major slice of the market, yes, it's share had been diminishing but to some extent this was a result of new entrants. Nokia didn't need to choose Microsoft, they had their own platform, they no doubt could have chosen Andriod and possibly HP's WebOS which in my opinion due to its Palm heritage will be a better OS than W7 mobile.

Microsoft have also gained access to Nokia's worldwide mobile infrastructure and billing systems etc. Among other things, access to Nokia's mapping for use with their search engine Bing, to rival Google and their maps.

Microsoft needed Nokia more than Nokia needed Microsoft. What has Microsoft brought to Nokia?

At this point I don't believe that Nokia has gained anything that puts them ahead of where they are now. Right now W7 mobile is behind where Symbian is with functionality, sure there are improvements about to be announced which will rectify some of the W7 mobile deficiencies. I do wonder how much ex Microsoft employee, now Nokia CEO, Mr Elop, had to do with this new partnership and whether this partnership would have happened without him as Nokia's CEO.

There have been several partnerships in the past like this with Microsoft, most of which have been dismal failures for the companies that have partnered with Microsoft. Nowhere have I seen it said that Nokia is not going to continue with Symbian and or Meego OS phones, at least in the short term. They have said W7 mobile will be their primary platform but haven't said it will be their only smart phone platform. I stand to be correct on this. As a result I cannot help wondering is Nokia is keeping it's bases covered to some extent by still maintaining some level of Symbian/Meego deployment. There seems to be plenty of support out in the market place for Symbian/Meego devices.

Back to my earlier comment about the suitability of Symbian/Meego. I believe that Symbian and or Meego could be easily developed with a new GUI etc which would answer most if not all of the critics. Take a look at the aftermarket GUI's like SPB Mobile Shell. While not being perfect it is a great example of what can be done with Symbian as it is now, without further development. I'm not a software person but I imagine that if something like SPB Mobile Shell can be overlaid onto an OS to the effect that it has, it must be possible to achieve at least as good if not better if this type of GUI were embedded as part of the OEM OS.

To finish, I am not anti W7 mobile, this could be an exciting new platform that will deliver great results. Both compnaies need it to work, though Microsoft more than Nokia I think. Right now I have my reservations about the success of this partnership. Interesting times ahead.

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#441068 18-Feb-2011 11:03

Technofreak: I do wonder how much ex Microsoft employee, now Nokia CEO, Mr Elop, had to do with this new partnership and whether this partnership would have happened without him as Nokia's CEO.

Too many things to respond to at this stage, but interesting to see that Stephen Elop is the 8th largest individual shareholder in Microsoft.
https://imgur.com/3nN2k

Since the announcement, the Nokia share price reached it's lowest point since 1998.
The Yahoo share chart doesn't go back that far.
http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=NOA3.DE&t=3m

However on google finance you can select "All" and see the history back to 1994.
http://www.google.com/finance?q=NYSE:NOK

Some interesting times ahead for Nokia.

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#441238 18-Feb-2011 15:19

alexx:
Technofreak: I do wonder how much ex Microsoft employee, now Nokia CEO, Mr Elop, had to do with this new partnership and whether this partnership would have happened without him as Nokia's CEO.

Too many things to respond to at this stage, but interesting to see that Stephen Elop is the 8th largest individual shareholder in Microsoft.
https://imgur.com/3nN2k

Since the announcement, the Nokia share price reached it's lowest point since 1998.
The Yahoo share chart doesn't go back that far.
http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=NOA3.DE&t=3m

However on google finance you can select "All" and see the history back to 1994.
http://www.google.com/finance?q=NYSE:NOK

Some interesting times ahead for Nokia.

Some interesting times indeed.

In regards to the share ownership, Slashgear have a good overview of why and how come he still holds so many.
http://www.slashgear.com/nokia-ceo-left-holding-microsoft-shares-13133066/

Stephen also mentioned the details in his Q&A session at MWC
http://conversations.nokia.com/2011/02/14/nokia-press-conference-video-qa-session/

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#441273 18-Feb-2011 17:08

Technofreak: I do wonder how much ex Microsoft employee, now Nokia CEO, Mr Elop, had to do with this new partnership and whether this partnership would have happened without him as Nokia's CEO.

According to some people it was a board decision and Mr Elop was just the one to execute it, being CEO and all.

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