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#11185 8-Jan-2007 16:27

If you have Microsoft DirectPush enabled and you are in your WiFi coverage, will it force a GSM/3G connection to be open or will it turn off according to the ActiveSync schedule, i.e. I have "As items arrive" set for peak times and "Every 15 minutes" for off peak. When I go to off peak, will the DirectPush suspend?

The reason I ask is that I do not have WiFi at work, therefore using the cellular network and as I'm using cellular, I may as well use DirectPush (which only works on cellular). When I get home I don't want to be eating into my data allocation when I have free data floating around me.

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#57236 8-Jan-2007 16:45

Direct Push only works with cellular network. If within WiFi coverage, the Direct Push is then disabled. Though, manually sync via ActiveSync while within WiFi coverage will work fine.

p/s: what WM5 device have you got? I am using Imate JasJam, but lately I have difficulty to get Direct Push/Exchange ActiveSync to work properly as it seems my data connection doesn't get through properly even though it stays connected to UMTS. Weird huh? My workaround is to turn off phone radio or manually disconnect the data connection, or in worse case, soft-reset then all will be fine. This seems to happen just after New Year's and would work for 12 hours or so before it decided to crap itself up.

The ActiveSync will have a status "Waiting for network" while it is saying Synchronising folder in the Exchange area.

Any idea?

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#57240 8-Jan-2007 18:07

i'm using a JasJar, but sorry I have no experience, it took me 2 weeks to get the whole thing operational, with a lot of exploration into upgrading 2KAD and the like to finaly settle for SBS2003 as it includes a POP3 connector for Exchange.

I've only been running the Exchange SYnc now for 3 days.

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#57241 8-Jan-2007 18:14

I have SBS 2003 at home. But I use MX and no POP3. Had no problem setting SBS 2003 up and running.

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#57431 10-Jan-2007 08:02

chiefie: I have SBS 2003 at home. But I use MX and no POP3. Had no problem setting SBS 2003 up and running.

There in lies your advantage. If I knew that the POP3 connector was only supplied with SBS, I would not have gone through the effort of installing 2003 Server. Also, if I had known that the attempt to upgrade from 2KAD to 2003AD was so problematic I would not have attempted the upgrade. Finally if I had known that the default generated certificate in SBS will not be accepted by a JasJar, I would have had no problems either ;-)

Have a look here http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?ForumId=17&TopicId=10989 for my voyage of discovery...

Thanks again to Maricio for all his help.

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#57433 10-Jan-2007 09:15

I thought Microsoft Connector for POP is available on Exchange, is it not?

So let me recap this, do you have SBS 2003? Do you also have 2kAD? And you want SBS 2003 be your primary AD? is that so?

I do hope you know that with SBS, it MUST be the main or only Domain Controller, while other Windows Server can be a member server to that domain.

I have read on how to perform SBS->Windows Server migration, but not seen much on how to go Windows Server->SBS. Though the ideology behind it is that, SBS must be made FSMO, DC and GC master.

My suggestion to you is, if you want to use SBS 2003 as your domain controller and Exchange for simplicity set up at home, best just kill off your 2kAD and set up SBS 2003 from scratch. Not ideal but probably the "cleanest" way of doing it.

Since my previous replies to this topic, I have added a POP to my SBS Exchange and it's pretty easy, you can have as many POP as you want and you can tell each to redirect to specific user mailbox, or if you have a catchall email address on POP, you can tell it to be redirected to Global Mailbox and use Exchange to distribute it to specific user mailbox.

Once you got those set, and Direct Push is pretty easy. Setting SBS 2003 is very easy too and default settings are good and protective enough. I got my SBS 2003 up and running in 2 days, with very long/slow installation as I took my time to install/swap cds, and work in between free time and sleep etc. Amazingly, I managed to get all 3 domains' DNS pointed to my home within 3 hours and all mails get to Exchange on MX with no difficulty or loss.

Where about in NZ are you?

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#57550 11-Jan-2007 07:56

I now have SBS 2003, installed from scratch with new new domain name.

I agree with you analysis and only wish I knew that 3 weeks ago. the POP3 connector is ONLY supplied with SBS 2003 exchange, not exchange standard. my original plan was to upgrade my W2KAD to Windows Server 2003, but when this was complete I found that there was non POP connector. so then I though, OK, I've upgraded my domain (no small task by the way), I'll transition it to SBS 2003, boy, what a mistake.

so finally I started again and installed BS 2003 from scratch. but default certificate is not accepted by the JasJar, so when I finally found better reference material from MS, I got a valid certificate all has been good since. i'm happy enough with DirectPush, the only limitation is that the SBS2003 POP3 connector minimum retrieval period is 15 minutes.

I know there are third party email collectors, some of which integrate as snap ins, but tone of the guidelines of my project was keep the instalation strictly MS software. ps. MS do not supply a POP3 conector upgrade.

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#57552 11-Jan-2007 09:05

Hey Lyon, glad to hear that the reinstallation of SBS 2003 and new domain gets you where you want it to be, working!

The shame thing with MS Connector for Pop is limited to 15mins minimal but that's alright as I don't really expect that many email coming through from my POP account.

All my mails are coming through from MX and that work great. You can also set up IMF to filter unsolicited emails (spam). Check out MSExchange.org, that's where I get most of the tutorials and help for fine tuning Exchange. And as for getting WM5 Direct Push working on SBS2003, I saw this MS KB document on how to do it, it is very easy. I guess you got that same document too?

Anyhow, glad to hear all went well. We should perhaps set up a chat session or discussion one day, on Exchange and/or SBS 2003.

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#57569 11-Jan-2007 12:01

I've been using directPush since Monday and so I'm very pleased with the results. the main reasons I've not implimented MX are:

email adress consistancy, I've had my email for 10 years now and don't want to distribute another.

Spam maintenance, I have an ISP that does it now and I'm happy to leave it as their role (got to get something for the money).

my connection is aDsl which is unreliable in my area, where as my ISP is more reliable, so while I'm offline, they are still receiving my email and lloking after it until such time exchange can collect it.

I'm in Auckland ad always keen on a chat (uually over a beer or two :-)

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#57571 11-Jan-2007 12:07

if you have your own domain, that is more persistent than relying on ISP's email address. Something I that learnt from changing ISPs. And with owning your own domain, you would need a webhost for web and email, which most does it together, or if you bought a domain name, normally it is parked, and even at parked, you can point your MX to your home, and they also usually do MX backup too. So for any off chance that your home connection dropped, the backup MX will still receive your mail, then when the primary MX is up, it will then send to it. So you really hardly going to lose mails.

With Exchange's IMF, you can archive it. Some ISPs these days, just delete spam/bad mails that are over their threshold. And implementing SpamCop on Exchange, you can literally stop the spam at DNS level.

I'm in Christchurch but I'm keen to have discussion on SBS @ home if anyone interested.

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#57712 12-Jan-2007 13:02

Ironically, the only reason I have SBS 2003 installed is so I could get email from a large ISP delivered to a mobile device on a different mobile provider. I have no need for web hosting and hence don't want to by a domain name nor a static IP, dynDNS is fine for me as my router has the update client inbuilt. I've not intending to deploy comprehensive HTML content, simply needed a way to get back to HTTPS with a URL that will match the certificate.

One thing I am interested in is using the now inbuilt LDAP to authenticate Linux, UNIX and AS/400's. In W2KAD you had to use a third party extension which was "black art" material. Has anyone used 2003AD LDAP?

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#57727 12-Jan-2007 14:26

One thing I am interested in is using the now inbuilt LDAP to authenticate Linux, UNIX and AS/400's. In W2KAD you had to use a third party extension which was "black art" material. Has anyone used 2003AD LDAP?

roll your own

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=144F7B82-65CF-4105-B60C-44515299797D&displaylang=en

or off-the-shelf

http://www.quest.com/Vintela_Authentication_Services/