Nokia 830 Spark sales only

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#155929 13-Nov-2014 13:04

Why is it that the only place in the country selling the Nokia 830 is Spark only?

Do Microsoft want to sell their phones to as many people as possible or only a select few who would prefer to be on Spark? Maybe Spark bids for the phones so they are the only ones selling them?

I don't know how it really works, but in this day and age, wouldn't it be better for Microsoft to have the devices in as many stores as possible at launch so they are covering the market? You can walk into any tech store and pick up an iPhone 6 or a Galaxy S5 that works on Spark, but if you want to look at or buy an 830 from anywhere else you can't as its Spark stores only.

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#1175225 13-Nov-2014 14:05

Would not be a good idea Microsoft selling this one directly. Specs include Band 28, when it only includes Band 28B. You'd have a few unhappy customers complaining it is not working on Vodafone's L700 network.

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#1175253 13-Nov-2014 14:49

coffeebaron: Would not be a good idea Microsoft selling this one directly. Specs include Band 28, when it only includes Band 28B. You'd have a few unhappy customers complaining it is not working on Vodafone's L700 network.

Yeah but why don't they sell it in other stores and advertised as a Spark network phone? You can go to HN and find iPhones that say Spark network beside them, surely more outlets selling them with the required network advertised means more sales. Looks like I won't be getting one now for Xmas as my partner won't buy from Spark.

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#1175267 13-Nov-2014 15:37

semigeek: Why is it that the only place in the country selling the Nokia 830 is Spark only? Do Microsoft want to sell their phones to as many people as possible or only a select few who would prefer to be on Spark? Maybe Spark bids for the phones so they are the only ones selling them? I don't know how it really works, but in this day and age, wouldn't it be better for Microsoft to have the devices in as many stores as possible at launch so they are covering the market? You can walk into any tech store and pick up an iPhone 6 or a Galaxy S5 that works on Spark, but if you want to look at or buy an 830 from anywhere else you can't as its Spark stores only.

Would be the first time that carriers in NZ have done exclusive deals..

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#1176350 15-Nov-2014 16:02

Sorry, posted in the other forum then found this thread.
Are Vodafone ever going to sell the variant of this phone that works on their network?

Also - I may get one of these instead of the 930. They look very similar :)

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#1176422 15-Nov-2014 19:38

quickymart: Sorry, posted in the other forum then found this thread.
Are Vodafone ever going to sell the variant of this phone that works on their network?
Also - I may get one of these instead of the 930. They look very similar :)

Not at this stage sorry.

Designwise they are very similar

930 has a faster processor, more RAM, full HD screen, 20MP camera, 32GB on board memory.
830 is a bit lighter, has a removable battery and microSD expansion and ships with the DT900 charging plate.

Both come in slimming black ;)

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#1176439 15-Nov-2014 20:20

Without wanting to be flippant comparing an iPhone or galaxy S5 to a lumia 830 isn't a valid comparison. The other two are mass market products, the windows phone platform isn't.

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#1177300 17-Nov-2014 12:17

Handle9: Without wanting to be flippant comparing an iPhone or galaxy S5 to a lumia 830 isn't a valid comparison. The other two are mass market products, the windows phone platform isn't.

Maybe the WP platform would be mass marketed if Microsoft promoted it better. The phones are great and would sell more if they were in all tech stores at launch and more advertising was done for them.

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#1177411 17-Nov-2014 15:29

coffeebaron: Would not be a good idea Microsoft selling this one directly. Specs include Band 28, when it only includes Band 28B. You'd have a few unhappy customers complaining it is not working on Vodafone's L700 network.

Source/info on this, and anything else relevant to band 28a/b?

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#1177449 17-Nov-2014 16:36

eXDee:
coffeebaron: Would not be a good idea Microsoft selling this one directly. Specs include Band 28, when it only includes Band 28B. You'd have a few unhappy customers complaining it is not working on Vodafone's L700 network.

Source/info on this, and anything else relevant to band 28a/b?

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#1177503 17-Nov-2014 18:21

coffeebaron:
eXDee:
coffeebaron: Would not be a good idea Microsoft selling this one directly. Specs include Band 28, when it only includes Band 28B. You'd have a few unhappy customers complaining it is not working on Vodafone's L700 network.

Source/info on this, and anything else relevant to band 28a/b?

Here: http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=6&topicid=154448&page_no=2#1173595

Any other source for band 28a or 28b? From the quick research that I've done, band 28 covers the 700mhz spectrum.

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#1177510 17-Nov-2014 18:51

Ruphus: Any other source for band 28a or 28b? From the quick research that I've done, band 28 covers the 700mhz spectrum.

APT Band Plan:

The APT band plan allows that up to 4 operators could receive wide spectrum blocks (2x 10MHz in this case), or 3 operators getting 2x 15MHz each, or other mixed configurations. On the other hand, in the US, there are only two commercial operators using the band (AT&T and Verizon Wireless), each of them having 2x 10MHz of spectrum.

The APT band plan allows greater national spectrum planning flexibility for governments all over the world, giving the possibility to adjust channel sizes to necessities of particular market and country by allocating blocks ranging from 2x 5MHz up to 2x 20MHz.

United States 2008 Wireless Spectrum Auction:

The auction divided UHF spectrum into 5 blocks:

Block A: 12 MHz bandwidth (698–704 and 728–734 MHz)
Block B: 12 MHz bandwidth (704–710 and 734–740 MHz)
Block C: 22 MHz bandwidth (746–757 and 776–787 MHz)
Block D: 10 MHz bandwidth (758–763 and 788–793 MHz)
Block E: 6 MHz bandwidth (722–728 MHz)

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#1177526 17-Nov-2014 19:21

I've got a headache now after all that reading. So not all band 28 phones can be treated equal unless you know which blocks of band 28 the phone supports?

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#1177529 17-Nov-2014 19:28

Yes.

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#1180301 20-Nov-2014 19:18

Parallel Imported are selling it, but interestingly they don't say which network it will work on (they usually do).

http://www.parallelimported.co.nz/mobile-phones/all-phones/nokia-lumia-830-white-mobile-phone.html

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#1181985 24-Nov-2014 10:54

Got mine now, well sort of, my partner put it away until Xmas, damn her ;)
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