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# 17974 20-Dec-2007 13:54

Hi - A google search provided me with a link to the vodafone site with instructions to download and install Windows Mobile 6 for the Vodafone 1210 (A rebadged ASuS phone).

I followed the instructions - yet when the phone reboots it tells me it's downloading, then the PC software says that the installation failed.

Has anyone else out there managed to get this working correctly?

The machine that I'm donig the install from is a Windows XP Pro machine and I have tried firstly Active Sync 4.2 (which came with the phone) and Active Sync 4.5 (Downloaded from the microsoft site)

The phone has had some extra software installed - all terminal emulation software, and it has had the patch applied to allow Self Signing certificates.

All my googling has turned up is the issues with the Treo ...

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Wazza.

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# 102172 29-Dec-2007 11:57

SOLVED!

I tried again last night ... and in desperation loaded up another machine with Windows XP - this is an older installation, so that state of windows is relatively unknown.

This machine does have USB 2 ports on it (not sure if that should make a difference...)

I had to install active sync (which I did from the installation CD that came with the phone) - so that was version 4.2

Ran the updated - it then went "non-responsive" - but I left it anyway. After maybe 5 minutes the phone started with the "downloading" screen, and the program on the computer started responding. After a a number of changing between downloading and upgrading, the phone is now running WM6.

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# 102173 29-Dec-2007 12:08

is there much improvement with WM6 on V1210? Seeing that V1210 is pretty cheap, and going an upgrade to WM6 and forgoing some of the Vodafone specific stuff may be a good risk to take.

Do you know what will actually be lost in the process of going from Vodafone WM5 ROM to Asus WM6 ROM?

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# 102174 29-Dec-2007 12:23

The upgrade came from vodafones own website:

<http://www.vodafone.co.nz/personal/help/device-support/vodafone/vodafone_1210/>

As such, I haven't noticed anything so far to suggest that anything vodafone installed has been lost.

Disclaimer: I got this phone as I run exchange (2003), and as such I use it almost as an extension of that more than as a phone.

Visually I find find WM6 to be a better "look" - the agenda is now a much nicer layout and is more informative.

You can create an appointment directly on the phone and invite attendees directly from the phone.

I notice that "html" email was mentioned as part of the upgrade (in general to WM6) - but whilst viewing and editing emails is nicer, it's still plain text on this phone (no major issues there really).

There's a range of new sounds ... which are ... different.

I use a Think Outside keyboard with the phone - if you do the same, change the input method to "123" rather than T9 to use the keyboard properly (I don't have immediate access to a second phone set up with the same keyboard, so I can't say anything about whether that's changed.

The menu structures have changed a little - a minor annoyance is that the left key in the email is now the "delete" (it use to be an option on the right key ... being there IMHO means less chance of hitting by mistake.

Overall - the phone "feels" a little faster ... time will tell, however.

I also use the phone as a modem for my macbook - I have been having a lot of issues with bluetooth + dial up networking (bluetooth on the phone will just turn off, the mac reports modem errors a lot) ... however whether this upgrade fixes any of that remains to be seen.

Also - I've been having a lot of issues with the build in opera failing - so will report back after a week or so of using the phone ...

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# 102269 30-Dec-2007 11:45

oh cool. i've been using Jasjam for a year now, and been looking for a cheaper smartphone for the night out instead of carrying Jasjam. I have an old Imate Smartphone2 to cover that but prefer a WM5/6 smartphone and just swapping over SIM card, and sync for latest records from Exchange 2003 running at home, before heading out.

My sink my money into this, or hopefully Nokia E51 will be out very soon.

Keep me posted with your WM6 discovery with V1210 further.

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# 102330 30-Dec-2007 20:29

Good idea - the size of the 1210 is a great size for being out and about with.

I live right on the fringes of vodafone reception - and the phone when it was WM5 got all confused (I don't switch the phone off overnight) - with WM6 so far it seems that the problem has been sorted. I must confess, so far the stability seems to be a lot better ... I'll switch things over to see if I can't force stability issues ...

Of course ... in terms of nights out, it doesn't have a camera built in if you want to snap those quick shots :-/

More updates as I can - the biggest test for me will be using it as a dial up modem tomorrow ...

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# 102349 30-Dec-2007 23:45

wazzageek: ... the biggest test for me will be using it as a dial up modem tomorrow ...

You might want to look at:
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2007/04/17/why-did-we-remove-bluetooth-dun.aspx
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http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=2121&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

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# 102350 30-Dec-2007 23:47

Unless used with the USB cable...

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# 102367 31-Dec-2007 10:34

Haha - this would have been good to have read before I was mobile, eh!

Never mind, I managed to find out how to connect, much, much easy than it used to be via the Mac.

For the V1210 - Under Tools is Internet sharing. Mine is shared via the Bluetooth PAN, and that's how the mac connects.

I haven't managed to get the USB cable to work for internet on the Mac (I haven't even really tried tbh) - given how easy the bluetooth is, I don't have any real inclination.

Note: As a modem, I leave the phone plugged in - 3G modem usage absolutely kills this phones battery ...

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# 102617 2-Jan-2008 22:51

Definitely impressed by this upgrade, I'm happy to report that all the problems I used to have with this phone seem to have dissappeared.

I'm absolutely amazed at how well the Mac and the phone now talk in terms of Internet connectivity! This makes life so much easier than it previously was.

The only downside I seem to have encountered is that the number recognition no longer sees My "+6421..." phone numbers stored in the contacts as the same as the "021..." as presented to the phone when people are ringing.

Returning you to your previous scheduled programming ...

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# 106050 22-Jan-2008 03:28

Can anyone tell me if New Zealand version of WM6 for v1210 has Portuguese T9?

Thanks.

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# 106056 22-Jan-2008 06:23

wazzageek: Haha - this would have been good to have read before I was mobile, eh!

Never mind, I managed to find out how to connect, much, much easy than it used to be via the Mac.

For the V1210 - Under Tools is Internet sharing. Mine is shared via the Bluetooth PAN, and that's how the mac connects.

I haven't managed to get the USB cable to work for internet on the Mac (I haven't even really tried tbh) - given how easy the bluetooth is, I don't have any real inclination.

Note: As a modem, I leave the phone plugged in - 3G modem usage absolutely kills this phones battery ...

Did you manage to get it to perform a Windows Update?
Settings > More > Windows Update

The internet pass-through using USB and Microsoft Mobile Device Center (I'm running Vista) seems to work, but it doesn't seem to connect out for the Windows Update.

Just curious...

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# 106062 22-Jan-2008 09:02

katharsis: Can anyone tell me if New Zealand version of WM6 for v1210 has Portuguese T9?

Portuguese is listed as an option on the menu.

DISCLAIMER: I know zilch about Portuguese, so whether it's anything more than a menu option I couldn't say ...

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# 106063 22-Jan-2008 09:04

Did you manage to get it to perform a Windows Update?
Settings > More > Windows Update

The internet pass-through using USB and Microsoft Mobile Device Center (I'm running Vista) seems to work, but it doesn't seem to connect out for the Windows Update.

I tried ... (from my data connection) ... and it failed. Then I tried again later. I tried a few more times, and I've now shelved it in the "I don't really care" bucket.

(Short version, No.)