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#28725 9-Dec-2008 16:13
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I have had an Okta touch for about 6 months now and while I loved the new toy when I got I have grown to hate it.
Is it bad to want to do harm to your own mobile? Will I be required to get therapy ?
In short ...
very bad screen backlight on a sunny day , cannot see the screen at all.
Touch keyboard disappears at cruical times , like when I need to enter a number at a phone menu, yes yes I can get it by touching a tiny little icon if I can see it on a sunny day, just irritating.
Pops up unneeded messages in the middle of phone calls or txts to tell me I haven't synced with my PC for xxx mins , who cares I knew that? Again getting rid of the message = finding tiny close icon.
Bad reception, compared to freinds telecom phones in the same areas it always has the worst reception.
Camera kept going of randomly , I have so many pictures of my pocket I'm thinking of opening a exhibition. Had to resort to disabling the camera button.
Camera will not save pictures to the SD card , it take the pic says it saved it but it dissapears. Ok saving to internal memory but hey thats full of pictures of my pockets.
In general the user interface is not user friendly too many functions buried and not easily avialible .

Thats enough for now , just needed to get this off my chest

Looking for a good alternative.


[Moderator edit (MF): Moved to Windows Mobile forum]

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Master Geek

  #183059 9-Dec-2008 16:45
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not to mention the number of times texts dont make it to the phone, randomly stops screen from turning on, and heats up a bit too much.

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  #183061 9-Dec-2008 16:46
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well for a telecom phone I am not sure don't think you'll get much more better than the okta on CDMA ... however on GSM I am seriously contemplating the Bold for xmas .. screen's good in the sun etc.

Other than that, I am very happy with my winmo, a bit of a waste if I upgrade to BB now ... but I am seriously tempted.


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Master Geek

#183088 9-Dec-2008 18:15
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I am surprised at all the unhappy Okta Touch users because mine has been great! I updated the ROM to Windows Mobile 6.1. I have to reboot it about once a month, and this usually coincides with an incoming text message arriving while I am using the Okta. I have experienced delays in message delivery in the last week but I assume this is a network issue.

Or maybe I am becoming tolerant!?

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  #183111 9-Dec-2008 19:43
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unfortunately, those unhappy okta touch users will probably remain unhappy unless they also upgrade to wm6.1 which can void their warranty and if the upgrade is not done properly, you will be left with a rather expensive coaster.

it seems quite obvious that the telecom stock software on the okta isnt the greatest. it seems they wont be releasing any upgraded roms for the okta or my phone the htc titan..

i hate it when they promote these expensive phones hard out and then leave it at that..little supoort etc

- Telstra HTC Touch Pro2 - Energy ROM WM6.5.5 20 Oct/Cyanogen Mod Froyo 2.2 - R.I.P
- AT&T Galaxy S Captivate 16GB on XT (now with brother)
- Samsung Galaxy S2 on XT- Runs ICS 4.0.3 Resurrection Remix 9.2
- Business Hours - Work In The Electricity Industry, After Hours - DJ/Turntablist - Will Scratch Vinyl For Free'
- What's next??? S3?

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  #183187 9-Dec-2008 22:43
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i dont think there exists a phone that people can really say is 'great'

i know several people with the palm treos, who love some things but also hate many things about them to the point they want a different phone.  same for the blackberrys, same for the i-mates, i even know several people who wish they never forked out for an iPhone....

gone are the days of the 1610 nokias that worked perfectly!


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  #183271 10-Dec-2008 09:36
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Interesting to hear others views on the OKTA , tr3v your upgrade to WinMO 6.1 sounds interesting what actual difference did it make? I'm getting to think like Regs  their are no great phones around and maybe I should give up all hope and stop looking for one.  I am giving up looking for anythin other than a phone with good reception, easy to see screen, not too small and syncs with my outlook calendar... those new blackberries look cool...... oh no the techno lust has started already ...


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  #183276 10-Dec-2008 10:10
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I have had a love/hate relationship with the Touch. If it 'just worked' all the time, it would be a legendary device, discussed with awe for years to come in WinMo circles.

I had been using one again recently but the touch-screen just up and lunched itself. Display is fine, but Okta Touch is now and Okta Cant-touch.

Woulda been okay, but the touch lacks things like a Windows key, which makes it impossible to do lots of stuff.


Should send it in for repair.


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  #183280 10-Dec-2008 10:35
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Ditched my touch a few months ago and went back to my Nokia 6275... just biding my time until I can use my iphone on the new Telecom network.

Personally I've never liked windows mobile although the Samsung i325 is probably the best I've used but still doesn't compete when compared with my iphone in terms of functions and ease-of-use etc (except for txting which is not good on the iphone).

Just set up a Blackberry bold for one of our guys and I'm impressed with the screen clarity... just remains to be seen how long the trackball lasts as the 8830's seem to degrade after 6/8 months of real-world use.

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Master Geek

  #183282 10-Dec-2008 10:40
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RichardBigBuddy: Interesting to hear others views on the OKTA , tr3v your upgrade to WinMO 6.1 sounds interesting what actual difference did it make? Richard

It was a while ago now, but I recall that the voice quality and reliability definitely improved.

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Master Geek

  #183304 10-Dec-2008 12:12
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I have to agree about the upgrade.  I upgraded mine to wm6.1 about 5 months ago and have never looked back.  In fact I have changed the software on it several times, currently running a version that looks like the touch diamond with manilla running the home screen.

As far as performance goes - had no issues since I did the upgrade, only have to soft reset a couple of times when I did something really stupd.  The phone is really responsive and the GPS works well with Garmin XT (used it to get around Auckland recently without any problems).  The only thing to do is to fix my data connection.  I have the HDR password,etc and I hada qucik go at trying to get it gonig, but I must have put something in aroud the wrong way - not a biggie, I will get around to it one day.

By the way - the upgrade process is actually pretty simple - some good instructions on the web, just follow the steps and warnings - got it to work first time.

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#184003 14-Dec-2008 12:48
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Yeah dudes, the OKTA touch really is limited to your suit type nerd who will keep it in a nice linen suit jacket pocket ... I know various tradesmen that benefit from the features (and in particular the GPS once you've upgraded to WM6.1 and flashed a good stable ROM, trying several to get the best GPS reception is a good idea!) however - they just arent durable enough. I have recommened to most that they purchase the moisture resistent cases available online - tradesmene and non-geeks dont understand that for a device such as this to be damaged by liquid doesn't just mean, dont pour water on your phone or go swimming with it in your pocket; it also means dont take it into humid environments, dont leave it in your pocket on the floor whilst you take a shower and thus; for this reason - this PDA like most will never be a reliable device for the general public in my opinion.

As for support; well - in terms of sending it away; I have had bad experiences; they have even sent my phone back to me damaged. As for software support in NZ for your OKTA Touch, forget about it ... there is just no resource apart from the great advice that you will find on this forum and also ... I have upgraded my device to wm6.1 and a GPS radio with a custom rom, included with many other additional useful pieces of software.
There are several things you need to do and do right in order to upprade your device to WM6.1 running a working GPS radio; and if not done correctly you can BRICK your device and thats that buddy ... a hefty little repair bill and lots of time wasted trying to fix yourself so whatever you do, follow instructions carefully and to the T otherwise be prepared to reap some sad consequences.
From memory, here is roughly the guide of what you'll need to do to upgrade your OKTA touch using Sprints upgraded ROM; obtained via the HTC US Website.

1. In order to upgrade your Windows Software to WM 6.1 with a working GPS and radio update you ned to unlock your phone. Some wicked genius has created a piece of software that will do this for you. This is the first step; follow the links and directions on this page to download the Coke unlocker and unlock your device and upgrade your bootloader image.

This was by far the most informative guide that I found in my searching; however once I unlocked my device I did install the Bell ROM and radio however had a few issues with the GPS getting locks so decided to install the Sprint Carriers ROM, and then installed a custom ROM ontop of that having obtained the radio version from Sprint. Here is the link to download the Sprint ROM for your OKTA Touch / HTC Vogue.

Then you can visit and search for a custom ROM based on the Sprint release; there has been some really cool work done by passionate users that I have found personally very useful.

Word of warning, in the process of upgrading ROMS dont let carrier customisation run (after you install the software, and align the screen and set a password if you choose to it starts the today screen and then several seconds later it says carrier customisation in 3 2 1 and you need to soft reset (stylus in the hole trick) before it counts down otherwise you'll have issues and settings to play around with for ages and ages.

Lastly; obtain your EVDO settings from your phone including your HDR name / password before you do anything, dont do anything until you have these details written down somewhere otherwise once upgraded you will have huge problems in getting your EVDO Internet to work; you will be limited to 1X data only - there are other threads that explain all this.

Also; read as much as you can before doing anything, I have been reading for months before upgrading my radio, so I was well prepared.


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