Thanks Mauricio. Embarassed .. well, it's because I am a bit new to this ...and don't laugh, I honestly thought that htc site site was an offshoot of wikipaedia ! The big disappointment is that there are hardly any posts in there. It seems to me that the more rich places for information like in sites like geekzone, smartphone net etc rather than manufacturer sites like clubimate and now this htcwiki. [Disclosure - I have no associations with any of these sites ;) ]. Seriously though, I can't believe the dearth of info out there on the smartflip and smartphones that is suitable for people like me struggling to get the hang of anything. Anyway getting off topic now so better quit before I am booted off.