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#767054 21-Feb-2013 14:07

Well that was good! Anyone have links to a hardware article or anything that the ps4 is going to be running? I missed the first hour of the live stream

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#767055 21-Feb-2013 14:07

Will the existng PS3 OS be used by PS4 - or will PS4 have its own?

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#767066 21-Feb-2013 14:26

eracode: Will the existng PS3 OS be used by PS4 - or will PS4 have its own?

New OS

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#767069 21-Feb-2013 14:26

dylandylandylan: Well that was good! Anyone have links to a hardware article or anything that the ps4 is going to be running? I missed the first hour of the live stream

There was very little hardware stuff mentioned.

Basically X86 CPU, 8 meg of ram, hard drive and 'enhanced' GPU

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#767101 21-Feb-2013 14:38

Predownloading games?

Looks like the ps4 could be responsible for people going thousands of dollars over their caps :(

But, I'm assuming you can disable that :)

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#767154 21-Feb-2013 15:40

Im hoping that the likes of Snap, or Orcon etc could do a zero rated service for the new PSN network but who knows.

Overall it was a good show, obviously they weren't prepared to show all their cards and are holding back a few things for E3 which is fine. The games shown didn't really do anything for me but I could only view it at 360p and even then it was cutting out constantly, i was expecting to see BF4 and a little disappointed it wasn't announced today but oh well!

Now to see what Microsoft have up their sleeve! If the rumors are true then its almost identical hardware (albeit word on the street is its not quite as powerful). If that's the case then this generation will come down to the exclusive games and the network its run on.

My 2 year upgrade cycle is coming up in October (my bday), where i build a new gaming pc. Depending on how these stack up i may actually go down the ps4/xbox route this time around and keep my current sandy bridge 2500k/7950 for the pc exclusives.

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#767180 21-Feb-2013 16:23

I think it's funny how Sony's marketing material rates the PS4 GPU @ 1.84 TLOPS, when the PS3's RSX was originally touted as doing "1.8" TFLOPS.

Sony, what have you been doing for the past 6 years?

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#767202 21-Feb-2013 17:02

zaptor: I think it's funny how Sony's marketing material rates the PS4 GPU @ 1.84 TLOPS, when the PS3's RSX was originally touted as doing "1.8" TFLOPS.

Sony, what have you been doing for the past 6 years?

Well considering they ditched Cell in favour of off the shelf parts (although tweaked) from AMD its no great surprise. The PS4 will be 3-4x powerful than the ps3 however.

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#767217 21-Feb-2013 17:31

the ps3 is so slow to load anything even menus perhaps the four is better but if you want to steam gigabytes of data over cloud ... hmm ...

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#767219 21-Feb-2013 17:39

dylandylandylan: Well that was good! Anyone have links to a hardware article or anything that the ps4 is going to be running? I missed the first hour of the live stream

Main Processor
Single-chip custom processor
CPU : x86-64 AMD “Jaguar”, 8 cores
GPU : 1.84 TFLOPS, AMD next-generation Radeon™ based graphics engine

Memory
GDDR5 8GB

Hard Disk Drive
Built-in

Optical Drive
(read only)
BD 6xCAV
DVD 8xCAV

I/O
Super-Speed USB (USB 3.0) ?AUX

Communication
Ethernet (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T)
IEEE 802.11 b/g/n
Bluetooth® 2.1 (EDR)

AV output
HDMI
Analog-AV out
Digital Output (optical)

Tsurugi

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#767249 21-Feb-2013 19:01

Behodar:
dylandylandylan: Well that was good! Anyone have links to a hardware article or anything that the ps4 is going to be running? I missed the first hour of the live stream

Main Processor
Single-chip custom processor
CPU : x86-64 AMD “Jaguar”, 8 cores
GPU : 1.84 TFLOPS, AMD next-generation Radeon™ based graphics engine

Memory
GDDR5 8GB

Hard Disk Drive
Built-in

Optical Drive
(read only)
BD 6xCAV
DVD 8xCAV

I/O
Super-Speed USB (USB 3.0) ?AUX

Communication
Ethernet (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T)
IEEE 802.11 b/g/n
Bluetooth® 2.1 (EDR)

AV output
HDMI
Analog-AV out
Digital Output (optical)

That GDDR5 8GB caught so many people off guard when people were expecting 4GB and pushing at 6GB Max.

Next Gen is going to be incredible.

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Master Geek

#767262 21-Feb-2013 19:20

Ram's cheap as chips these days, so it doesn't surprise me too much, it is amazing though,faster games etc, I wonder if they're going to use a mechanical or SSD?

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#767312 21-Feb-2013 20:49

Rumour was that it was going to feature a small SSD combined with a much larger HDD. This would make sense for their instant resume policy. Imagine having to wait for that HDD to start spinning before you could play, that wouldn't exactly be instant.

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#767464 22-Feb-2013 10:28

Tsurugi:
That GDDR5 8GB caught so many people off guard when people were expecting 4GB and pushing at 6GB Max.

8GB of GDDR5 is a nice "upgrade". 16GB would've been nicer. Still a big improvement over 4GB.

dylandylandylan: Ram's cheap as chips these days ...

IC pricing is a symptom of manufacturing cost. "CPU" RAM is cheap basically because of massive economies of scale (actually, almost every IC is cheap in that respect).

GDDR5 ("GPU" RAM) on the other hand, is not cheap - relatively speaking. 8GB is pleasantly surprising.

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#767476 22-Feb-2013 10:41

Hobchild: Rumour was that it was going to feature a small SSD combined with a much larger HDD. This would make sense for their instant resume policy. Imagine having to wait for that HDD to start spinning before you could play, that wouldn't exactly be instant.

For instant resume to work the game (or at least significant parts of it) would need to be resident in memory. Because the PS4 uses a unified memory architecture it makes it relatively painless to implement, since the frame buffer also happens to be main memory.
How well the instant resume works depends on how Sony enforce the framework.

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