Is online FPS gaming even viable in NZ?

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Itr0nic

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#240653 30-Jul-2009 17:06

Thought Id do mine to iv never asked for interleaving off im with Orcon Full/Full

Tracing route to games11.gameplanet.net.nz [58.28.25.81]

over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms sx763.itronic.net.nz [192.168.2.1]
2 45 ms 44 ms 44 ms 60.234.8.200
3 71 ms 74 ms 75 ms ge-0-0-3-201.cre2.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.69]
4 70 ms 75 ms 72 ms ae1-0.cre1.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.13]
5 70 ms 75 ms 74 ms ge-0-3-0-0.cre1.sky.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.10]
6 75 ms 74 ms 75 ms 60.234.9.206
7 74 ms 74 ms 73 ms ge-1-0-0-akl-core3.wxnz.net [58.28.11.7]
8 72 ms 73 ms * games11.gameplanet.net.nz [58.28.25.81]
9 73 ms 75 ms 76 ms games11.gameplanet.net.nz [58.28.25.81]

Trace complete.

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#240782 30-Jul-2009 23:18

Here is mine.

Orcon Full/128 (Purple + 25 GB extra)
Ilam, Christchurch
Interleaving is apparently off
Router = Orcon homehub
Time = 11:17 PM Thursday Night

Tracing route to 59.167.241.51 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.2.1
2 35 ms 37 ms 36 ms 60.234.8.200
3 137 ms 64 ms 62 ms ge-0-0-3-201.cre2.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.69]
4 62 ms 60 ms 66 ms ae1-0.cre1.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.13]
5 39 ms 36 ms 36 ms ge-1-3-0-0.bdr1.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.34]
6 59 ms 57 ms 58 ms ge-2-2-0.gw4.akl1.asianetcom.net [203.192.166.69]
7 72 ms 62 ms 62 ms po4-0.cr2.syd1.asianetcom.net [202.147.55.254]
8 85 ms 78 ms 77 ms gi2-1.gw2.syd1.asianetcom.net [202.147.40.202]
9 81 ms 84 ms 79 ms gi1-0-1.gw1.syd2.asianetcom.net [202.147.40.194]
10 85 ms 83 ms 78 ms gig0-0-126.bdr1.syd6.internode.on.net [150.101.197.41]
11 61 ms 61 ms 58 ms gi1-47-143.cor2.syd7.internode.on.net [150.101.225.6]
12 93 ms 93 ms 88 ms 59.167.241.51

Trace complete.

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#240810 31-Jul-2009 06:32

kiwijunglist:

Is this correct?

No that is completely wrong, interleaving should be off for lower pings.

If you are a gamer you only want interleaving on where the line/wiring is bad or unstable. Interleaving is a form of error correction that adds overhead.

Here's what a ping to that gameplanet server looks like with interleaving off:

Tracing route to games11.gameplanet.net.nz [58.28.25.81]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1     1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2     1 ms     1 ms    <1 ms 192.168.1.1
3    10 ms     9 ms    10 ms lo0.internet.ivpn.pe13.telstraclear.net [218.101.61.22]
4     8 ms     8 ms     8 ms ge-2-0-0-906.ie2.telstraclear.net [203.98.18.65]
5     8 ms     8 ms     8 ms ggis-gige-v906.telstraclear.net [203.98.18.67]
6    11 ms     9 ms    10 ms v4.aksw7.global-gateway.net.nz [210.55.202.51]
7     8 ms     8 ms     8 ms wxc-dom.aksw7.global-gateway.net.nz [203.96.116.54]
8     8 ms     9 ms     8 ms ge-1-0-0-akl-core3.wxnz.net [58.28.11.7]
9     9 ms     9 ms     8 ms games11.gameplanet.net.nz [58.28.25.81]

ronindanbo

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#240811 31-Jul-2009 06:36

kiwijunglist:

Thank you for your email regarding interleaving on your account.

Interleaving is currently on, on your account. Turning it off would actually increase your ping, not decrease it. If you would like us to troubleshoot the slow speeds to the COD server, please do a tracert to that server.

You can do this by typing in tracer (ipaddress of the server) e.g. tracert 60.234.1.1 . Email us back the results by right clicking in command prompt and selecting mark and then copy, pasting the results onto email.

I hope this email has been helpful

If you have any further queries please do not hesitate to call us on the number below or email us at support@orcon.net.nz.
Regards

Is this correct?

No, Interleaving is a package verification system which ensures you only recieve non corrupted packages. This means it takes longer as it checks each package and if one is corrupt it will request a resend. while this is quite usefull with LAN's it is totally unnecessary for IP traffic and is the main cause of limited speed in NZ.

jamesvini

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#241419 2-Aug-2009 13:29

i live by the canterbury uni and i find that it depends on the game you play.
during the evenings in my area the net is super slow as all the filty students are downloading Emo music.
But i get a good game speed with cod4 with no visible lagging, even though my ping may be 140 or so.
some thing like Battlefeild 2 i get the same ping but some wicked lag at times.

My Opinion not anybody elses.

Unxious

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#241446 2-Aug-2009 15:20

Your aDSL router line details tells you if interleaving is on or if. You don't have to guess. It usually says 'Fast' or 'Interleaved'

But to extend this topic, the viability of NZ online gaming took a hit with the iminent closure of ICONZ arena. Damn shame really given we don't tend to get EA servers etc here. Australia is has a good deal of servers but lately our link into Aussie is utter crap. Most users find playable pings into Internode servers with our ISPs saying they can't do anything about it. NZ traffic is getting boned across the Aussie circuit (the routing paths being out of NZ ISPs control).

So no Jetstream gaming, no ICONZ gaming...... bvarly any local gaming at all. Personally I think both Xtra and ICONZ have gone down a bad path in cutting out the free gaming costs. It's local traffic so it costs SFA. They could easily restrict IP access to this country only. That would cut out international bandwidth.

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#241646 2-Aug-2009 23:18

Unxious: Your aDSL router line details tells you if interleaving is on or if. You don't have to guess. It usually says 'Fast' or 'Interleaved'

But to extend this topic, the viability of NZ online gaming took a hit with the iminent closure of ICONZ arena. Damn shame really given we don't tend to get EA servers etc here. Australia is has a good deal of servers but lately our link into Aussie is utter crap. Most users find playable pings into Internode servers with our ISPs saying they can't do anything about it. NZ traffic is getting boned across the Aussie circuit (the routing paths being out of NZ ISPs control).

So no Jetstream gaming, no ICONZ gaming...... bvarly any local gaming at all. Personally I think both Xtra and ICONZ have gone down a bad path in cutting out the free gaming costs. It's local traffic so it costs SFA. They could easily restrict IP access to this country only. That would cut out international bandwidth.

maybe someone needs to organise online petition?

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#241656 3-Aug-2009 00:45

Kaos36: I'm getting excellent ping on Teamfortress 2 servers (Aussie & kiwi) 44 ping is the lowest on one of them.

Problem is that game is to fast for me its like everyone is on crack, takes a while for my reactions to catch up lol.

I take it you've never tried playing any of the Quake derivatives then ;)

jamesvini

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#241676 3-Aug-2009 08:32

or unreal?

My Opinion not anybody elses.

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#241818 3-Aug-2009 15:13

kiwijunglist: maybe someone needs to organise online petition?

Or you could organise a group of you together, buy a server and co-lo it at Maxnet.

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#241831 3-Aug-2009 15:37

Been using the aussie COD4 servers for my online hit and find ping is usually around the 80ms mark.

Occasionally get a bit of a freeze but its not too bad, and very playable. Far better than the alternatives.