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Topic # 143856 29-Apr-2014 19:10
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Hey,

As many of you know,  we are funded by TDV, which means we get to play with some of the other cool stuff that is going on there.

They (TDV) have just launched a new trial for a cloud gaming service called Aircade which looks interesting.
They are looking for trialists to test it out and give feedback (a bit like we did with Bigpipe) so thought I would post it here as I know there are many avid gamers on geekzone.

looks similar kind of thing to Onlive, and looks to work in the same sort of way does Spotify/Netflix does for music and video respectively. (subscription, access to large catalogue, no downloading, just streaming etc)


http://aircade.co.nz 

facebook:  aircadenz


what do you guys think about the idea?  keen to try it out?




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  Reply # 1033360 29-Apr-2014 19:17
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steaming games... average NZ connection...


hmm.. interested, but a little sceptical in how well it will go down with all the folk that like to bounce up and down about their bandwidth as it is.



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  Reply # 1033363 29-Apr-2014 19:21
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Very BigPipe theme.
TDV seem to be hitting up a few avenues aye? Is this one of you ones as well?




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  Reply # 1033367 29-Apr-2014 19:27
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hio77: steaming games... average NZ connection...


hmm.. interested, but a little sceptical in how well it will go down with all the folk that like to bounce up and down about their bandwidth as it is.



i must say! their site layout is uncanny in its familiarity!

:D


I've had a go on UFB - it works really well.
I've also had a go on VDSL.  works acceptably well
ADSL, it depends.

the thing that really kills it though is WiFi.  It needs to be played over ethernet connection to work well or else you get random dropouts.  Because it's gaming, you can't buffer ahead of time like you can with video, so any sort of signal degradation (such as happens with wifi a lot) cause issues.




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  Reply # 1033368 29-Apr-2014 19:28
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BigPipeNZ:
hio77: steaming games... average NZ connection...


hmm.. interested, but a little sceptical in how well it will go down with all the folk that like to bounce up and down about their bandwidth as it is.



i must say! their site layout is uncanny in its familiarity!

:D


I've had a go on UFB - it works really well.
I've also had a go on VDSL.  works acceptably well
ADSL, it depends.

the thing that really kills it though is WiFi.  It needs to be played over ethernet connection to work well or else you get random dropouts.  Because it's gaming, you can't buffer ahead of time like you can with video, so any sort of signal degradation (such as happens with wifi a lot) cause issues.


Make sure you approve my trial :D




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  Reply # 1033373 29-Apr-2014 19:32
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BigPipeNZ: 
:D


I've had a go on UFB - it works really well.
I've also had a go on VDSL.  works acceptably well
ADSL, it depends.

the thing that really kills it though is WiFi.  It needs to be played over ethernet connection to work well or else you get random dropouts.  Because it's gaming, you can't buffer ahead of time like you can with video, so any sort of signal degradation (such as happens with wifi a lot) cause issues.


sounds great!

ill certainly give it a go when the opportunity shows itself .. hopefully ill have my DLM-1 back by then.


Latency is absolutely the killer here, anyone trying to run it over wireless would be in for bad news be it frame drops or simply the unpredictable latency.


ild be very interested to compare to the likes of steam streaming and how heavily input latency is affected. 




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  Reply # 1033376 29-Apr-2014 19:37
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The 'beta' version is also being demo'd in Whangarei over the next two weeks as part of Northpower/CFH celebration of completing their fibre roll out, so anyone around that area could pop in and see what it's all about.






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  Reply # 1033377 29-Apr-2014 19:39
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BigPipeNZ: The 'beta' version is also being demo'd in Whangarei over the next two weeks as part of Northpower/CFH celebration of completing their fibre roll out, so anyone around that area could pop in and see what it's all about.




Kudos North power for having their network sorted.

(They own the power poles and the fibre is all aerial.)




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  Reply # 1033386 29-Apr-2014 19:51
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Registered interest.  Should be able to work out who I am based on my GZ username :)

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  Reply # 1033952 30-Apr-2014 13:02
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Yeaaah .. Nah..

Maybe okay for casual gaming but I fail to see how it could possibly ever work for competitive FPS gaming. In games like BF4 every ms of latency makes a difference.








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  Reply # 1033969 30-Apr-2014 13:23
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Gonna be the future....





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  Reply # 1033970 30-Apr-2014 13:26
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Zeon: Gonna be the future....


OnLive etc have been around for ages now.

As Lias says it's good for casual gaming slow paced gaming but awful for anything where the latency is noticeable.

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  Reply # 1033975 30-Apr-2014 13:34
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Registered, but nothing.. not even a Thanks for registering email :P




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Inphinity: Registered, but nothing.. not even a Thanks for registering email :P


Ditto




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  Reply # 1034021 30-Apr-2014 14:43
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Registered too, and I am a BigPipe VDSL customer if that helps.  Oh, and a keen gamer of course ;-)



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  Reply # 1034034 30-Apr-2014 15:02
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Lias: Yeaaah .. Nah..

Maybe okay for casual gaming but I fail to see how it could possibly ever work for competitive FPS gaming. In games like BF4 every ms of latency makes a difference.






I don't think this is intended for the competitive FPS scene.    (but having tried it out over UFB, latency is not at all noticable)

Think of it like Spotify.  Audiophiles with $10k home audio systems look down on Spotify because the quality of the stream isn't lossless, but for most people it's just fine.

Likewise Netflix.  Netflix bitrate, even on 'Super HD' is only around 7Mbps, so the quality isn't as good as a Blu-ray, especially on a $10k home cinema system, so major cinema buffs will continue to buy expensive Blu-rays.  But for most people who just want to watch on their big screen TV it's perfectly fine. 






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