IRD gets their hands on Steam (GST being added to purchases soon)

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#208708 23-Feb-2017 21:08

Steam will be including sales tax in storefront prices across 10 countries including Australia and New Zealand, to comply with new tax jurisdictions requiring sales tax be applied to digital goods and services.

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#1725401 23-Feb-2017 21:13

This will just make me use kinguin and other online retailers more

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#1725406 23-Feb-2017 21:23

It's been cheaper recently to use the NZ store for lots of purchases, so I guess that will change with this.

I last set mine to US so I could get genital jousting which isnt on the au/nz stores, not really wanting to put it back to NZ incase they have made it harder to change it as a result of this taxing things that shouldnt be thing.

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#1725438 23-Feb-2017 22:37

richms:

It's been cheaper recently to use the NZ store for lots of purchases, so I guess that will change with this.

I last set mine to US so I could get genital jousting which isnt on the au/nz stores, not really wanting to put it back to NZ incase they have made it harder to change it as a result of this taxing things that shouldnt be thing.

Lol that game, will go have a look myself now as well :D

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#1725467 24-Feb-2017 06:22

Guess I will be keeping to place that sell steam codes (like greenman gaming etc).

I have found most of the time I can get it cheaper on that than on steam.

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#1725468 24-Feb-2017 06:29

richms:

It's been cheaper recently to use the NZ store for lots of purchases, so I guess that will change with this.

I last set mine to US so I could get genital jousting which isnt on the au/nz stores, not really wanting to put it back to NZ incase they have made it harder to change it as a result of this taxing things that shouldnt be thing.

Don't even want to google that phrase... ;)

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#1726626 26-Feb-2017 18:33

IsThereAnyDeal.com is a great source to compare game prices. You can filter sites, steam keys etc and set price alerts. Haven't bought a game directly from Steam in quite a while.

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#1726645 26-Feb-2017 19:42

riahon:

richms:

It's been cheaper recently to use the NZ store for lots of purchases, so I guess that will change with this.

I last set mine to US so I could get genital jousting which isnt on the au/nz stores, not really wanting to put it back to NZ incase they have made it harder to change it as a result of this taxing things that shouldnt be thing.

Don't even want to google that phrase... ;)

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#1726646 26-Feb-2017 19:47

What's the problem with paying GST on purchases you make whilst domicile in New Zealand? Like everyone else does?

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#1726662 26-Feb-2017 20:46

BlinkyBill: What's the problem with paying GST on purchases you make whilst domicile in New Zealand? Like everyone else does?

Nothing at all :) but since a number of publishers set premium pricing for this part of the world, I have to wonder if there will now be GST on top of that and, if so, what the hell their reasons will be for keeping the premium pricing... You know an item is way too expensive on Steam when it is cheaper to buy a disc copy from Mighty Ape...

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#1726692 26-Feb-2017 22:06

BlinkyBill: What's the problem with paying GST on purchases you make whilst domicile in New Zealand? Like everyone else does?

Look at the argument from the opposite perspective. If I buy a foreign-made game from a foreign service (using a foreign payment method such as PayPal, perhaps) then what has the NZ government done to deserve an extra 15% on top?

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#1726730 26-Feb-2017 23:24

Behodar:

BlinkyBill: What's the problem with paying GST on purchases you make whilst domicile in New Zealand? Like everyone else does?

Look at the argument from the opposite perspective. If I buy a foreign-made game from a foreign service (using a foreign payment method such as PayPal, perhaps) then what has the NZ government done to deserve an extra 15% on top?

You mean other than the billions of dollars they are putting in the infrastructure required to get the bits you your computer.

Personally I would prefer if we just got rid of GST altogether and move to a different form of taxation to make up the deficit it does not work in the internet age and is far more costly than its worth to police.

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#1726764 27-Feb-2017 05:38

Behodar:
BlinkyBill: What's the problem with paying GST on purchases you make whilst domicile in New Zealand? Like everyone else does?

Look at the argument from the opposite perspective. If I buy a foreign-made game from a foreign service (using a foreign payment method such as PayPal, perhaps) then what has the NZ government done to deserve an extra 15% on top?

If you buy a game, why should you pay gst for a locally-made game from a local service using a local payment method, and no gst for their foreign competitors? Don't you support NZ-made?

What I just wrote is a minor argument. Rightly or wrongly we have a consumption tax that pays for government spending. You consume a game, why shouldn't you pay the tax? Rightly or wrongly gst is very simple to understand, and it should be free of loopholes.

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#1726765 27-Feb-2017 06:14

BlinkyBill:
Behodar:

BlinkyBill: What's the problem with paying GST on purchases you make whilst domicile in New Zealand? Like everyone else does?

Look at the argument from the opposite perspective. If I buy a foreign-made game from a foreign service (using a foreign payment method such as PayPal, perhaps) then what has the NZ government done to deserve an extra 15% on top?

If you buy a game, why should you pay gst for a locally-made game from a local service using a local payment method, and no gst for their foreign competitors? Don't you support NZ-made?

What I just wrote is a minor argument. Rightly or wrongly we have a consumption tax that pays for government spending. You consume a game, why shouldn't you pay the tax? Rightly or wrongly gst is very simple to understand, and it should be free of loopholes.

We have a consumption tax to off set the need for higher income tax, it really is as simple as that.

It costs X amount to run the country, so x amount needs to come from taxes.

It is almost like everyone believes the tax department puts it all in their pocket and walks away with it while infrastructure magically appears and pays for itself.

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#1726766 27-Feb-2017 06:15

Behodar:

BlinkyBill: What's the problem with paying GST on purchases you make whilst domicile in New Zealand? Like everyone else does?

Look at the argument from the opposite perspective. If I buy a foreign-made game from a foreign service (using a foreign payment method such as PayPal, perhaps) then what has the NZ government done to deserve an extra 15% on top?

Same reason for the goods that are made overseas, and sold here. The Govt hasn't done anything to deserve those taxes either. Nor the income tax that I pay, but they collect tax to fund NZ's budget.

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#1726878 27-Feb-2017 09:29

geocom:

Personally I would prefer if we just got rid of GST altogether and move to a different form of taxation to make up the deficit it does not work in the internet age and is far more costly than its worth to police.

I thought GST was meant to be one of the most efficient, easily administered taxes? That's the argument for a uniform rate, applied to everything tax and why things like lower rates for books, none for basic foods etc are such a bad idea.

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