Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.


1301 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 270


Topic # 228844 25-Jan-2018 13:18
Send private message

I'm looking at buying a prebuilt PC, primarily for gaming, and keep coming back to Alienware. I'm hesitant because I've always considered Alienware overpriced and never had a lot of respect for Dell builds. Now that Alienware is Dell I'm even more meh about the whole thing. There's not, however, a whole lot of choice in Canada and I'm not finding much feedback here. Hence, back to trusty Geekzone to ask - is Alienware worth it these days?

 

I'm looking at spending around the $2000 Canadian mark. Annoyed that I need to buy now, right after all the issues with meltdown, etc surfaced, but needs must. 

 

If not Alienware, what other suggestions? As I said, mainly gaming, some video work, some programming, some other work stuff, but its the gaming specs that are the most important. Ideas? Reasons I shouldn't touch Alienware?


Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer Create new topic
5844 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1757

Trusted

  Reply # 1946555 25-Jan-2018 13:21
One person supports this post
Send private message

"I'm hesitant because I've always considered Alienware overpriced" You got that one right.
They also have poor compatibility with hardware and have very limited upgrade ability.
I wouldn't touch an alienware, I bought a Gigabyte Sabre 15 with a 1060 in it. Runs mint. 

*The US models of my laptop seem to stick with the 1050Ti which is cheaper and also a very good card.





Steam: Coil (Same photos as profile here)
Origin: Scranax
Currently playing on PC: Rust, Subnautica, CS:GO, AOE2 HD, BeamNG Drive, BF1.


Meow
7613 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 3700

Moderator
Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 1946557 25-Jan-2018 13:24
2 people support this post
Send private message

I've had some hell dealing with them over an issue. I've also blogged about it. I wouldn't recommend Alienware to anyone.







1301 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 270


  Reply # 1946559 25-Jan-2018 13:32
Send private message

michaelmurfy:

 

I've had some hell dealing with them over an issue. I've also blogged about it. I wouldn't recommend Alienware to anyone.

 

 

I vaguely remembered that and kept thinking about it when I was looking at the latest Alienware Aurora. 

 

My problem is that there's limited options for decent prebuilds in Canada and importing from the US isn't an option (customs duties are horrendous). I don't want to do my own build this time around and going to a local shop isn't an option (my French isn't good enough to explain exactly what I want - I'd probably end up ordering toothpaste instead of thermal paste). 

 

So, prebuilds it is. And, if not Dell then who? 

 

 




1301 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 270


  Reply # 1946562 25-Jan-2018 13:37
Send private message

Coil:

 

I wouldn't touch an alienware, I bought a Gigabyte Sabre 15 with a 1060 in it. Runs mint. 

*The US models of my laptop seem to stick with the 1050Ti which is cheaper and also a very good card.

 

Finding good cards is getting harder and harder. Over the past two months any decent graphics cards have almost doubled in price - where they are even in stock. Cryptocurrency mining is taking the market. I wanted a 1080Ti but the last price I was given for one was just over $2,000. If I got one out of the US I was still looking at $1500. It's ridiculous. 

 

Buying all the components, or a complete unit, out of the US is not an option due to the import duties in Canada. I never thought we were lucky in NZ until I came here!


Meow
7613 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 3700

Moderator
Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 1946566 25-Jan-2018 13:43
One person supports this post
Send private message

If it is for a desktop build then take a look at the HP Omen series (http://store.hp.com/us/en/mdp/desktops/hp-omen-desktop#!&tab=features) - far better than the Alienware PC's.







1301 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 270


  Reply # 1946586 25-Jan-2018 14:00
Send private message

michaelmurfy:

 

If it is for a desktop build then take a look at the HP Omen series (http://store.hp.com/us/en/mdp/desktops/hp-omen-desktop#!&tab=features) - far better than the Alienware PC's.

 

 

Thanks. Showing my picky side now - the HP's are more expensive than Dell, even with their current sale on. Also generation 7, compared to Dell's gen 8. 


Meow
7613 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 3700

Moderator
Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 1946628 25-Jan-2018 14:38
One person supports this post
Send private message

But they're not Dell so it is a win-win! But honestly if your heart is set on the Alienware then don't let me stop you. Maybe support in the US is better.







1301 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 270


Reply # 1946810 25-Jan-2018 18:01
Send private message

michaelmurfy:

 

But they're not Dell so it is a win-win! But honestly if your heart is set on the Alienware then don't let me stop you. Maybe support in the US is better.

 

 

I'm not going with Dell, after re-reading your experience then scouring Reddit for more such experiences. Alienware support isn't handled by the same support as Dell, but its rubbish. Interestingly, the custom builders from the original Alienware, now building killer gaming rigs in Florida, have the same bad customer support rep so maybe its cultural for that company, past and present. 

 

While I appreciate the HP suggestion, it's way too under spec and overpriced for what they're offering. Maybe its different for NZ. Getting recommendations for prebuilds is tough in NZ, I know. Much easier to build your own (or gaming on laptops). But, maybe some other suggestions will come through. 

 

 


Mad Scientist
18696 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2379

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 1946838 25-Jan-2018 20:34
Send private message

you mean building a gaming desktop?

 

surely there are computer shops that can build you an amazing system for half the price of the Alien (in NZ that would be true)




1301 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 270


  Reply # 1946889 25-Jan-2018 22:07
Send private message

Batman:

 

you mean building a gaming desktop?

 

surely there are computer shops that can build you an amazing system for half the price of the Alien (in NZ that would be true)

 

 

Nope, there's not. The Alienware Aurora I was looking at was actually a decent price (under $2000). There's a shortage of components and getting hold of decent graphics cards is becoming really hard. Prices are fluctuating madly, if you can even find cards in stock. For the cheapest GeForce GTX 1080Ti, at $1400 plus taxes, there's a six month backorder. Otherwise, you can pay well over $2000 for the card alone (check out Amazon Canada)

 

1060 & 1070 cards are also unavailable. There's not even other sellers listings for them on Newegg. 

 

So, it's cheaper to buy pre-built, and also the only way I can get what I want right now. 


217 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 44


  Reply # 1946983 26-Jan-2018 08:55
Send private message

Not sure if you have looked into this already but another option is to jump onto the Nvidia website and lookup battlebox.

 

They will link to retailers that do pre-builts to spec, which didnt seem too terribly priced.

 

 


2173 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 657

Subscriber

  Reply # 1947009 26-Jan-2018 09:33
Send private message

Nothing suitable pre built on newegg?




1301 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 270


  Reply # 1947043 26-Jan-2018 11:01
Send private message

I'm answering myself now. 

 

Alienware has good prices in North America, especially now with RAM, GPU, and some other components pricing going sky-high. 

 

However, the customer service isn't good (understatement if all the forums with complaints are to be believed). Alienware desktops are somewhat upgradeable, but are very limited in expandability. 

 

I just bought: ABS Battlebox Essential Vortex Aries NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070  Intel i7-7700K (4.2 GHz) 32 GB DDR4 240 GB SSD 2 TB HDD Windows 10 Home 64-Bit ALI122. $1800

 

That will do me for now. 

 

 


Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer Create new topic

Twitter »

Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

Intel introduces new NUC kits and NUC mini PCs
Posted 16-Aug-2018 11:03


The Warehouse leaps into the AI future with Google
Posted 15-Aug-2018 17:56


Targus set sights on enterprise and consumer growth in New Zealand
Posted 13-Aug-2018 13:47


Huawei to distribute nova 3i in New Zealand
Posted 9-Aug-2018 16:23


Home robot Vector to be available in New Zealand stores
Posted 9-Aug-2018 14:47


Panasonic announces new 2018 OLED TV line up
Posted 7-Aug-2018 16:38


Kordia completes first live 4K TV broadcast
Posted 1-Aug-2018 13:00


Schools get safer and smarter internet with Managed Network Upgrade
Posted 30-Jul-2018 20:01


DNC wants a safer .nz in the coming year
Posted 26-Jul-2018 16:08


Auldhouse becomes an AWS Authorised Training Delivery Partner in New Zealand
Posted 26-Jul-2018 15:55


Rakuten Kobo launches Kobo Clara HD entry level reader
Posted 26-Jul-2018 15:44


Kiwi team reaches semi-finals at the Microsoft Imagine Cup
Posted 26-Jul-2018 15:38


KidsCan App to Help Kiwi Children in Need
Posted 26-Jul-2018 15:32


FUJIFILM announces new high-performance lenses
Posted 24-Jul-2018 14:57


New FUJIFILM XF10 introduces square mode for Instagram sharing
Posted 24-Jul-2018 14:44



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.