Building rig predominantly for MMORPGs - Not overly tech savvy, any input is appreciated!

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Xelandra

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#232057 27-Mar-2018 12:05

Hey guys. I've been stalking forums and playing with pickapart for awhile now but I thought it may be time for some direct advice.

I mainly play World of Warcraft and Elderscrolls Online. If a more hardware demanding RPG came out I would like to be able to play it on decent settings also.

I currently have issues with fps in game, I sit at around 40fps on average (20-70 fps overall range), I'd obviously like to improve this!

I have $2000 NZD as a general limit, less is best! I need my new pc to be an investment/"future proof" as much as possible within my price range.

I also use my pc for tv/movies, music, word docs, web...the usual.

I will be buying parts from somewhere like PBtech or Mightyape and paying for them to install it, unless anyone can suggest a better website/shop? I'm in Christchurch.

My monitor is an "AOC 1920 x 1080 TN Panel, 1ms Response Time, 60hz", I'm not sure how much it matters when choosing a GPU but I will not be upgrading my screen this year.

I read something about prices on particular hardware (CPUS?) being high atm and to wait awhile? It may have been an old post/article though haha.

A point in any direction is greatly appreciated.

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#1984236 27-Mar-2018 12:26

if you are in Christchurch go and see Dragon PC . They will answer your questions and point you in the right direction.

https://www.dragonpc.co.nz/

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#1984297 27-Mar-2018 14:29

General tips: an i5 is fine for gaming, don't get talked into buying an i7 (unless you have money to burn, which you don't)

You want an SSD for your OS drive, and if you can afford it your games drive.

Throw as much money as you humanly can at your graphics card, unfortunately due to the mining craze now is a terrible time to upgrade.

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#1984308 27-Mar-2018 14:52

Lias:

General tips: an i5 is fine for gaming, don't get talked into buying an i7 (unless you have money to burn, which you don't)

You want an SSD for your OS drive, and if you can afford it your games drive.

Throw as much money as you humanly can at your graphics card, unfortunately due to the mining craze now is a terrible time to upgrade.

Mining is tanking hard so there is a flood of them on Trademe and retail prices should start dropping as you would be stupid to be building a mining rig currently. So you could be in for some bargains with the small risk needing to replace a fan in the future.

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#1984353 27-Mar-2018 15:32

MMOGs generally cater for fairly low system specs (relative to the latest blockbuster AAA title) as they want as many subscribers as possible for as long as possible, so I wouldn't overspend. What's your current system?

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Xelandra

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#1984486 27-Mar-2018 20:28

@Plas: Mining..rig..? Why would I maybe need to replace fans in comparison to buying a gpu any other time? 'scuse my ignorance, ya lost me a bit :P Something to do with bitcoin? :S

Lias:

General tips: an i5 is fine for gaming, don't get talked into buying an i7 (unless you have money to burn, which you don't)

You want an SSD for your OS drive, and if you can afford it your games drive.

Throw as much money as you humanly can at your graphics card, unfortunately due to the mining craze now is a terrible time to upgrade.

As far as WoW/ESO goes I read (but don't actually know what I'm talking about) that they're CPU intensive rather than GPU so should I focus on a good CPU or did you mean a good GPU would be a better investment future-wise?

sidefx:

MMOGs generally cater for fairly low system specs (relative to the latest blockbuster AAA title) as they want as many subscribers as possible for as long as possible, so I wouldn't overspend. What's your current system?

my parts are 5ish years old except for the motherboard which i had to replace not long ago. I'd prefer to buy a new rig rather than upgrade parts as I can do it all online and at my convenience. I wouldn't trust myself to install the goods!

i5 4670

8gig ddr3 ram

msi h81m-p33 motherboard

geforce gtx 560ti

1tb HD

128gb ssd

vexxxboy:

if you are in Christchurch go and see Dragon PC . They will answer your questions and point you in the right direction.

https://www.dragonpc.co.nz/

Cheers, I did know of this place but didn't think about it.. about to browse their site :)

thanks for you time guys!

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#1984515 27-Mar-2018 21:52

Grab a GTX 1060 and be done with it.

If load times are too slow then upgrade the 128GB to 512GB (amazon have them cheap all the time and can be done whenever)

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#1984568 27-Mar-2018 22:25

Yeah I'd probably do as suggested by @mentalinc - a GPU (and sdd for that matter) is relatively easy to install and everything else in your system should have no problems running pretty much any MMOGs... For gaming your GPU is the bottleneck.

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#1984641 28-Mar-2018 05:10

You'll want WOW on an SSD, it makes loading SOOOO much faster. ESO didn't appear to have the slower load times on a normal drive.

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#1984648 28-Mar-2018 08:00

Yep, agreed with what @mentalinc said. Get an extra 8GB of ram, a 512GB SSD then hit the gpu for as much as you can afford.

Your rig is newer than mine (i2500k oc to 3.4, 16GB ram SSD and other drives) but with the addition of an nvidia 1070 gpu it plays games like The Witcher 3 easily using high settings.

Unless of course you just want to upgrade the whole computer just because shiney new goodness.....and that's perfectly reasonable too :-)

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#1984829 28-Mar-2018 11:29

4670 is still a reasonably capable CPU. The idea of getting a decent graphics card and a big SSD rather than a full rebuild is not a stupid idea at all.

Mistenfuru

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#1984830 28-Mar-2018 11:32

In regards to WoW I run an I5 with 8GB Ram and a GTX960ti. That runs on ultra settings so it's not very hungry.

Elder scrolls requires a little more in the GPU bracket to run on Ultra.

I purchased mine as a custom build from ComputerLounge 3 years ago for $2000.

Biggest investment (especially as a WoW player) is a decent SSD to run your game (will significantly reduce loading screens)

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#1985228 29-Mar-2018 07:58

my parts are 5ish years old except for the motherboard which i had to replace not long ago. I'd prefer to buy a new rig rather than upgrade parts as I can do it all online and at my convenience. I wouldn't trust myself to install the goods!

i5 4670

8gig ddr3 ram

msi h81m-p33 motherboard

geforce gtx 560ti

1tb HD

128gb ssd

You already have a reasonably good system and can easily get away with a few components upgraded.

Here is my 2c,

Cooling, a cheap aftermarket CPU cooler and at least 2x case fans, if you dont have this already.

If you can get another 8GB of ram do so, if you dont have any RAM slots free then you are looking to replace all of your ram and its probably not worth it.

SSD, upgrade to something bigger. The more games you can fit on that the better experience you will have with those games (in general). Also of note is SSD's slow down when they get full.

Graphics, this looks to be your main issue. Get something with at least 4GB of VRAM and you should be good to go for a while at 1080P

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#2024583 29-May-2018 11:29

My 2c. It's dead easy to do all the upgrades yourself. Most people on here would be eager to help, or you can do it by watching a few YouTube videos on "How to install a graphics card" or something along those lines. You'll save a few $$ that way too.

Also, my VR PC (for the Vive) is running on a relatively old PC compared to yours, I have a second generation i7-2600k and it's still perfectly fine for some demanding games. Granted, I do have a GTX 1080 in there, but still, your CPU should be fine for a few more years.

Cheers

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