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NZSuperNerd

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Topic # 59862 13-Apr-2010 20:23

Hey

My friend is looking for a new computer and this is why im here.

He wants it to be cheap but he doesn't want it to have amd.

His price is around $1000

He wants to play bc2 on low.

This is what he's looking at:

Intel core 2.7ghz
2GB ram
160gb hdd
dvdd
nvidia N210
20' screen

He was going to get a acer. but he now wants a custom mabe pc

PLZ help he want's it soon

HELP

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Reply # 318070 13-Apr-2010 21:27

Hmm a 210 video card will probably struggle... its a fairly demanding game.

Playtech used to have some good machines for under $1000 but looks like the prices have gone up a bit.... you could drop them a line and see what they recommend anyway.

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Reply # 318116 13-Apr-2010 22:12

thx i'll do that

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Reply # 318158 14-Apr-2010 02:15

For modern gaming what you can put together for $1000 just isn't worth getting. It's going to struggle with anything new.

If you didn't need the monitor you might have a chance, but it sounds like you need:

Monitor, Cpu, Motherboard, Ram, Hard drive, Dvd, Case, Psu and Video card

I would highly recommend a budget of $1500 max, then you can get something like below, which is going to be much more enjoyable than what you can get for <$1000.

Cpu: Core i3-530 2.9Ghz
Mobo: ASUS P7P55D-E LX
Ram: 4GB DDR3
Hdd: 500GB
Dvd: SATA DVD Writer
Case: Good ATX Case
Psu: Good Power Supplier
Lcd: 23" Full HD Monitor
Gfx: ATI Radeon 5770 1TB

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Reply # 318171 14-Apr-2010 08:05

Ragnor:
Gfx: ATI Radeon 5770 1TB

Can you get me one of these ?

XPD / Gavin / DemiseNZ

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Reply # 318178 14-Apr-2010 08:26

Why wouldn't he want an AMD cpu? that is severely limiting his choice's at that price point. AMD is definitely more bang for buck than what you will find with intel

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Reply # 318213 14-Apr-2010 09:43

Ragnor: For modern gaming what you can put together for $1000 just isn't worth getting. It's going to struggle with anything new.

If you didn't need the monitor you might have a chance, but it sounds like you need:

Monitor, Cpu, Motherboard, Ram, Hard drive, Dvd, Case, Psu and Video card

I would highly recommend a budget of $1500 max, then you can get something like below, which is going to be much more enjoyable than what you can get for <$1000.

Cpu: Core i3-530 2.9Ghz
Mobo: ASUS P7P55D-E LX
Ram: 4GB DDR3
Hdd: 500GB
Dvd: SATA DVD Writer
Case: Good ATX Case
Psu: Good Power Supplier
Lcd: 23" Full HD Monitor
Gfx: ATI Radeon 5770 1TB

I tend to agree. Your budget of $1000 might be a little lean. Can it be stretched another $500 or so? $1500-$1600 would give more breathing room, and at the $1K mark performance might no be very enjoyable, gaming wise. Also, Computer Lounge have a 'Lite' system at $1149 - but no monitor. Is the monitor needed right away? Perhaps that could be added later, in a few months say?

NZSuperNerd

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Reply # 318229 14-Apr-2010 10:24

first of all he hates AMD it's kind of runs in the family.

He dosen't need a geat computer as he has a 360 to play things big.
He dosen't mind using is onboard videocard (x4500)
His last computer only had p4 2.6hgz
1gb ram
fx 5200
It was an old dell my dad brought him.

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Reply # 318234 14-Apr-2010 10:33

xpd:
Ragnor:
Gfx: ATI Radeon 5770 1TB

Can you get me one of these ?

Opps, GB lol

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Reply # 318238 14-Apr-2010 10:44

NZSuperNerd: first of all he hates AMD it's kind of runs in the family.

He dosen't need a geat computer as he has a 360 to play things big.
He dosen't mind using is onboard videocard (x4500)
His last computer only had p4 2.6hgz
1gb ram
fx 5200
It was an old dell my dad brought him.

I use to hate AMDs also for a long time due to the very old ones cooking themselves quite often - but now Id be happy with one, theyve come a long way :)

Onboard video for any form of modern gaming is pretty much a joke, especially the COD type of games.

Unfortunately if he wants to play anything reasonably new, the budget will have to go up.

My system (in my sig) is still considered to be a good machine but for the latest Bad Company and COD games, itll struggle horribly.....new video card probably wont help either.

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Reply # 318246 14-Apr-2010 10:51

NZSuperNerd: first of all he hates AMD it's kind of runs in the family.

He dosen't need a geat computer as he has a 360 to play things big.
He dosen't mind using is onboard videocard (x4500)
His last computer only had p4 2.6hgz
1gb ram
fx 5200
It was an old dell my dad brought him.

Didn't you want say he wanted to play Bad Company 2. The recommended requirements are fairly high for this game.

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Reply # 318308 14-Apr-2010 11:59

If he alreayd has a PC with a monitor then I woudl reccomend keeping the existing monitor and just getting the PC itself (same goes for existing keyboard, mouse etc).
Unless it is incredibly old then chances are good that his exisiting monitor will still easily cope with the resolutions etc you want to play games at.

Upgrade your monitor, mouse, keyboard etc at a later date when you have the money

With that in mind, how about something along the lines of this:
$999 buy now

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Computers/Desktops/No-monitor/auction-282963665.htm

CPU:Intel Core i5 750 2.66X4 GHz 8MB
Motherboard: H55M-S2H
ATI CrossFireX 6 SATA ports for hard drives ATI CrossFireX
Graphics: ATI NEW Radeon 4350 512MB DirectX10.1 HDMI
RAM:4GB DDR3-1333MHz High performance memory
SOUND:8 channel, High DefinitionAudio
LAN: 10/100/1000Ethernet,Broadband ready
HDD: 500GB SATAII 7200RPM highperformance hard drive
DVD: 24X dual layer DVD-RW
Case: Black mid tower ATX case

(I have no idea if this trader is any good, just using it as an example of what you can get for $1k on trademe if you don't need all the peripheral bits and bobs. There are plenty of similar spec PCs there for similar prices)

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Reply # 318330 14-Apr-2010 12:19

Ok I was bored so using his requirements of ~$1000 max, Intel only and my opinion of the balance for a gaming system capable of playing BC2 on passable settings here's what I came up with:

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Reply # 318336 14-Apr-2010 12:34

i'm not so sure about the DIY $0 part for the OP's friend ...

Swype on iOS is detrimental to accurate typing. Apologies in advance.

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Reply # 318341 14-Apr-2010 13:07

xpd:

My system (in my sig) is still considered to be a good machine but for the latest Bad Company and COD games, itll struggle horribly.....new video card probably wont help either.

Your system specs are not far off mine, execpt mine is an Intel. Runs COD4MW2 and BFBC2 on high settings without breaking a sweat. (admittedly BFBC2 stuttered in some parts of the game when there was loads of explosions/smoke/AI)

I used to be an AMD fan through and through, but changed to Intel a couple of years ago and haven't looked back.

This was taken from a TomsHardware.com article and speaks of AMD's ability to reduce bottlenecking when it comes to PCI Express throughput:

AMD vs. Intel?

For some reason, all Intel chipsets available today only support PCI Express 2.0 on the primary links that are used for graphics. This applies to the 4- and 5-series chipsets employing the ICH10 southbridge. While Intel claims PCI Express 2.0 support on those links, it limits throughput to PCI Express 1.1-class performance. This is naturally a problem when we start looking at the latest high-speed motherboard-down controllers.

AMD, on the other hand, upgraded the link speeds on its 700- and 800-series chipsets, which means that current AMD mainstream and enthusiast chipsets don’t create bandwidth bottlenecks for high-speed add-on devices.

This would only be for high end systems though :P

NZSuperNerd

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Reply # 318348 14-Apr-2010 13:32

well thx.

Um a few new things his monerta is only 15' CRT.
And he will go for AMD as a las resort.
And he will probs be doing DIY.

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