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Topic # 59930 15-Apr-2010 10:39
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The future of great Call of Duty titles such as the greatest selling FPS shooter of all time (Modern Warfare 2) might become exstinct after Activisions $36 milliion dollar lawsuit against former co-founders Jason West and Vince Zampella.

How do you feel about Activisions firing of Infinity Wards orginal co-founders?  Me being a huge fan of the Call of Duty franchise, am very disappointed to see Activision once again 'milking' a franchise.  I personally prefer quality over quantity and that's what Infinity Ward are all about.  Making great games that redefine the way we play first person shooters.  But unlike Activision, they're all about making money, willing to sell the CoD series off to other game developers such as Treyarch (no thanks..) and others.  Infinty Ward wern't going to have a bar of this and I don't blame them for what Activision quote: 'breaching their contract' if that is what they did.  They should have every right to their product and them being the original developer of the series should be given that right.

I think what Activision has done is crap and me being a huge CoD fan and Infinity Ward fan for that matter am disappointed in Activisions recent firing of West and Zampella.  What's your opinion on the matter?  How do you feel about the lawsuit?  Does it bother you that the CoD series could be sold off to other game developers?  What will become of the future for Infinty Ward....

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  Reply # 318713 15-Apr-2010 11:34
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It's impossible to know what really went on unless you're on the inside. Clearly there is bad blood and the studio - publisher relationship soured.

There's an interesting interview with West and Zampella here on Eurogamer
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/respawns-jason-west-and-vince-zampella-interview

Basically they have already founded their own new studio and signed a deal with EA as a publisher and they retain ip rights of franchises they create.

MW2 was really overrated / overhyped, imo BC2 is actually the much better game out of the big FPS titles this year.





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  Reply # 318724 15-Apr-2010 11:54
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Yes that is a very interesting interview, I think now that they are able to move on and 'reboot' their own franchise we will begin to see good quality games from Respawn Entertainment.

And just remember that all that hype is talked up by Activision because they have huge marketing on 'their' products. I personally injoyed MW2 but my old time favourite from the original Infinity Ward team or now called Respawn Entertainment was Call of Duty 2 - Very intense!

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  Reply # 319544 16-Apr-2010 22:29
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agree with Ragnor, once something is into lawsuit, you'll never know what's really going on. i even wonder if the lawyers and defendants and alike really know/remember what truly happened or they just start to believe what they want other people to believe...
read from gamespot that reason Activision suing the co-founders is they've been insubordinate (whatever this word means) and something else. basically Activision believes the co-founders tried to defect to EA and form their own independent studio so they can make bigger money, oh of course they tried to "steal" the infinite ward staff as well. now they really started their own studio and signed contract with EA, sort of proved what Activision suspected/believed was right. but 'chicken' and 'egg' who comes first? don't know, might never know.
my personal opinion is: for whatever reason an excellent game designer can't 100% focus on game designing but lawsuit, it is always a loss to gamers
and how ironic, their new studio is called "respawn"...



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  Reply # 319609 17-Apr-2010 09:55
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reekydesert: agree with Ragnor, once something is into lawsuit, you'll never know what's really going on. i even wonder if the lawyers and defendants and alike really know/remember what truly happened or they just start to believe what they want other people to believe...
read from gamespot that reason Activision suing the co-founders is they've been insubordinate (whatever this word means) and something else. basically Activision believes the co-founders tried to defect to EA and form their own independent studio so they can make bigger money, oh of course they tried to "steal" the infinite ward staff as well. now they really started their own studio and signed contract with EA, sort of proved what Activision suspected/believed was right. but 'chicken' and 'egg' who comes first? don't know, might never know.
my personal opinion is: for whatever reason an excellent game designer can't 100% focus on game designing but lawsuit, it is always a loss to gamers
and how ironic, their new studio is called "respawn"...


You raised some good points my friend but Infinity Ward's co-founders didn't form 'Respawn Entertainment' until after they were fired.  Ofcoarse they wanted to get back into making games, thats why they had every man and his dog asking them to sign into a contract for being their publisher.  And as for the 'Respawn' name??  Would't you make a name for your comapny if it went through some hectic s**t just over a very well selling franchise.  I can tell you right now I'd be making up a name that would kick Activision in the nuts.

Point being Infinty Ward now called Respawn Entertainment make very good, great quality games and now that they have departed from Activision, Respawn are going to get back into making some great games, because that's what they do best.  They're rebooting their company and in my opinion - good on them for thinking up the name.

And we will see in the not too distant future who out of the two development studios will become better off, I can tell ya right now who I'll be putting my money on :)

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  Reply # 321291 21-Apr-2010 13:09
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as long as they keep making good games, i don't care how much they earn and under what name they work. i'm just an average gamer who plays games~~ ^_^

cgrew, am interested what name you've got for Activision, hehe



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  Reply # 321299 21-Apr-2010 13:21
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reekydesert: as long as they keep making good games, i don't care how much they earn and under what name they work. i'm just an average gamer who plays games~~ ^_^

cgrew, am interested what name you've got for Activision, hehe


Well said I couldn't agree more.  As for a name for Activision?  Most names I can think of would be inappropriate on this site but they should be called a***holevision lol I can think of no name better then Respawn Entertainment for Infinity Ward's new studio name - it's very clever! :)

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  Reply # 321315 21-Apr-2010 13:57
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Check out EA's new MOH. Looks suspiciously like MW2.



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  Reply # 321369 21-Apr-2010 16:14
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MikeyPI: Check out EA's new MOH. Looks suspiciously like MW2.


Yeah it's quite coincidental isn't it, but the new MOH has been in the making for awhile.  They're rebooting their franchise and surprisingly it has nothing to do with the COD series or Infinity Ward's co-founders new studio Respawn.  Other then MOH are trying to compete with COD it seems?

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  Reply # 321834 22-Apr-2010 20:52
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cgrew:
reekydesert: as long as they keep making good games, i don't care how much they earn and under what name they work. i'm just an average gamer who plays games~~ ^_^

cgrew, am interested what name you've got for Activision, hehe


Well said I couldn't agree more.  As for a name for Activision?  Most names I can think of would be inappropriate on this site but they should be called a***holevision lol I can think of no name better then Respawn Entertainment for Infinity Ward's new studio name - it's very clever! :)


what about Deactivision?  hahahahaWink 



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Reply # 321938 23-Apr-2010 08:55
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reekydesert:
cgrew:
reekydesert: as long as they keep making good games, i don't care how much they earn and under what name they work. i'm just an average gamer who plays games~~ ^_^

cgrew, am interested what name you've got for Activision, hehe


Well said I couldn't agree more.  As for a name for Activision?  Most names I can think of would be inappropriate on this site but they should be called a***holevision lol I can think of no name better then Respawn Entertainment for Infinity Ward's new studio name - it's very clever! :)


what about Deactivision?  hahahahaWink 


Haha hilarious! Laughing

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  Reply # 322038 23-Apr-2010 12:14
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cgrew:
MikeyPI: Check out EA's new MOH. Looks suspiciously like MW2.


Yeah it's quite coincidental isn't it, but the new MOH has been in the making for awhile.  They're rebooting their franchise and surprisingly it has nothing to do with the COD series or Infinity Ward's co-founders new studio Respawn.  Other then MOH are trying to compete with COD it seems?


I dunno, BFBC2, is the same genre, and looks nothing like MW2. Not talking about the location or gameplay, but the graphics themselves.  There is no way you can look at the two and not same they are similar, same shiny overlay, looks like the exact same coding for backgrounds etc.

I just think its too coincidental thats all. Esp with the EA link and accusations of IP theft.... 



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  Reply # 322065 23-Apr-2010 13:09
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MikeyPI:
cgrew:
MikeyPI: Check out EA's new MOH. Looks suspiciously like MW2.


Yeah it's quite coincidental isn't it, but the new MOH has been in the making for awhile.  They're rebooting their franchise and surprisingly it has nothing to do with the COD series or Infinity Ward's co-founders new studio Respawn.  Other then MOH are trying to compete with COD it seems?


I dunno, BFBC2, is the same genre, and looks nothing like MW2. Not talking about the location or gameplay, but the graphics themselves.  There is no way you can look at the two and not same they are similar, same shiny overlay, looks like the exact same coding for backgrounds etc.

I just think its too coincidental thats all. Esp with the EA link and accusations of IP theft.... 


Hmm well as a matter of fact there is quite abit of history between the COD series and the MOH series.  Originally the guy's that formed Infinity Ward broke off from Medal of Honor and made the award winning Call of Duty.  The graphics engine Medal of Honor used was the Quake engine and the guy's that made Infinity Ward used the same engine to make Call of Duty.  They had rights to use that engine and ever since Call of Duty 1 they have made vast improvements on the original Quake engine into what they have today.  So inevitably Medal of Honor were to do the same because if you go back to both games and their original engines - they are the same and haven't changed, they're just higly advanced now, and I have watched the new MOH trailor and it does look very similar to COD but I can see slight differences, especially in the night vision.  

So that's abit of history on the two games - they both use origins of the same graphics engine and we will only be able to truely compare the two when MOH comes out in September.  

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  Reply # 322877 26-Apr-2010 09:05
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Ragnor: 7 (and counting) more people leave Infinity Ward
http://kotaku.com/5522544/seven-jump-ship-to-form-modern-warfare-developers-new-studio



Yes things are all turning out quite interesting for Activision now - this will hurt them...

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  Reply # 322933 26-Apr-2010 11:06
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Seriously, Bobby Kotick is a bigger d*ck than Larry Probst could ever hope to be. The way things are going, Blizzard Entertainment will be the only thing propping up De-Activision.

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