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siyuan

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#72135 21-Nov-2010 16:30
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I never understood how the PS3 controller is recharged, I could never get it right without using PS3. Here are my variations of the failures I've observed:

1) Recharging on a PC that has been turned off, but with USB ports are still powered won't work. The controller LEDs show nothing
2) Recharging on a PC that is turned on, the controller won't charge until OS initialises the controller
3) Sometimes when doing 2), the controller still won't charge until I press the PS button
4) Sometimes when doing 3), the controller LEDs simply flash rapidly trying to sync with PS3 via bluetooth
5) Sometimes when doing 4), unplug the USB cable, the LEDs still flash rapidly, plug in the cable again still doesn't change this
6) Sometimes when doing 4),  unplugging the USB cable stops the LEDs from flashing rapidly, but when plugged back in, LEDs don't flash at all
7) Repeating 1)~6) in any combination sometimes make it recharge again
8) When 1)~7) fail, I've just learned that there's a reset button on the back of the controller, it makes the controller charge again

I've tried with all sorts of power sources, PC/laptop/TV, and quite a few USB cables. Why is recharging the PS3 controller so difficult? No other USB devices I own can match the complexity of getting this controller to recharge.

I've googled a lot to find answers, I've seen other people asking about the same problem, but the most common answer I've seen were "get a new controller", "replace the battery, it's dead". I think both answers are unacceptable, either the controller is defective, or PS3 controllers are simply crap and buggy.

Another problem I had was pairing the controller with PS3 via bluetooth. When I first got my PS3, I plugged the controller to PS3 via USB as instructed by the manual. The controller was quickly recognised. I then unplugged the USB cable to see if the controller can now via bluetooth. Nope, it kept on flashing rapidly. Plug the USB cable back in, play around in the settings, assigne the controller as player 1, unplug it again. Same crap. Out of ideas what to do, I rebooted/shutdown PS3 a few times and tried a few other things, suddenly it started working. Till now, I still don't understand how I got it working.

I asked other friends who also own PS3s, they told me pairing the controller is as simple as plugging in vis USB, let PS3 recognise it, unplug it and it should just work. Not so in my case, but at least once it's paired, I never have to do it again.

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richms
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  #407411 21-Nov-2010 20:45
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When I had a PS3 for a while, it would not charge off only 5v, it needed to have something done to the data lines that only one of my wall wart USB power adapters did.

USB charging is a very recent spec designed to solve all these incompatible problems, but the PS3 predates it.

There is no standard for wall chargers pre-USB charging spec for what they do with the data lines, what current they supply or what current limiting is applied. I can see the need with the PS3 to stop people from being able to blow stuff up by plugging a cheap USB hub into a cheap USB power supply and putting 4 controllers on it, as if it was to just simply charge when given 5v like most USB powered junk, then it would be possible to try to take 2 amps from a wallwart that does 500mA - and as the cheap ones have no overcurrent protection it would blow it up.

There are standalone chargers made for the PS3 controllers that will do whatever is needed to the data lines to enable the controller to enable charge mode without enumeration. I would just get one of those from deal extreme or wherever and use that instead of messing around with a PC to charge it.

As for the pairing issue. Never seen it, cable it up, let it do its thing and it worked.




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  #407676 22-Nov-2010 14:09
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Is your PS3 firmware up to date?
i remember after a certain firmware update sometimes my comtrollers wouldnt connect even though they had not been paired with any other ps3 or device since they last worked.

My flatmate also had the same issue after the firmware update, cannot remember which version it was sorry. We fixed it by playing around with the order in which we turned the controller and ps3 on. This problem eventually went away either by itself or another firmware upgrade, i cannot remember which.

I have no troubles charging my controllers on my PC but that may be because i have the PC drivers installed to use on PC games.

siyuan

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  #407905 22-Nov-2010 22:20
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I still haven't upgraded my firmware due to the OtherOS feature having been removed. As long as I don't reset my PS3 to factory default, I haven't the need to go through the pairing process for now.

The charging problem, at least I've learned about the reset trick, which seems to work quite reliably, although it's a bit irritating. Luckily I mainly use it as a media center, I only need to charge the controller every few weeks. 

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