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enzedone

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  #3119544 23-Aug-2023 21:07
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you can the two pairs at the bottom of the picture running to the outlet points.




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  #3119545 23-Aug-2023 21:17
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we have an alarm box sitting in the garage, so you think this also acting as a junction box for the incoming lines? I know it’s a long shot, maybe current cabling is coming out of that to the phone lines(not used) and internet line as well.


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  #3119546 23-Aug-2023 21:25
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here is the Alarm box

 

I put my hypothesis to the Chorus guy who flogged me off stating that would never happen. But I’m pretty sure that the alarm takes precedence over other lines, then get fed out to the rest of the house for other usage?

 

 

 




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  #3119547 23-Aug-2023 21:37
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‘Here is a close up of the board

 

 

 


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  #3119623 24-Aug-2023 06:11
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Hi

 

You say chorus came around?

 

did they go into the roof space to trace the current cable to your existing DSL router?

 

  • given you have two “blue” wires which look like cat5, they must end up somewhere….
  • if you can figure out where that blue wire to your kitchen (where your router is), goes to the that’s all you need to know as chorus can then link that to where they place the fibre ONT (Likley in your garage), next to / same wall as your alarm.
  • comming from the street to your house, should be quite easy, up the wall and into the soffits and across to where that area near the alarm box.

 

 

that’s how I see it anyway…

 

  • I don’t believe any sparky 10 years ago would have installed a double outlet for no reason.
  • potentially gib stoppers didn’t see or let thru the cable runs back to the garage (around near the alarm box or manhole).

  #3119627 24-Aug-2023 06:41
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Double outlet is probably one for DSL, one for phone. Note the orange pair seems to be continued through.

There's probably a DSL filter in the ETP or somewhere else.

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  #3119648 24-Aug-2023 08:58
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It's common for alarms to be at the head of the phone pair so they can disconnect telephones while they use the line. If there haven't been phones on the line is the alarm just local not monitored by any alarm company?

 
 
 

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  #3119654 24-Aug-2023 09:17
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You can do amazing things with fish tapes and decent draw wires, 

 

We "post installed" a route to my parents home office with ruggedized micro-duct, using the existing copper route,  When Chorsu Arrived the just blew the fibre from the the FTP  and then spliced it there...


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  #3119662 24-Aug-2023 09:39
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OK

 

 

 

Firstly thank you to all who have given me advice.

 

I looked at my Truss Plan last night and I may have enough room to feed the cable through the roof from the soffit by the front door. As access from further out via the garage is an absolute no go unless child labour is used. Then down into the existing outlet. Just using the CAT5 wire as a feeder. 
Maybe I should have just paid the $11,000 ten years ago? NOT hahaha.

 

Anyway thanks to everyone, good for me to work through this and have an outcome (compromise), but at least a way forward. 

 

P.S hahahahaha, oh dear. So it seems when Chorus ran the draw cables from the bottom of the road to the pit’ out on the berm in front of our property they made a mess of it. They can’t pull the fibre up the street to our house. And so it continues………..


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  #3119664 24-Aug-2023 09:40
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Hi thanks for the photos, but what it clearly shows is that its cat5/5e so suitable for GigE transport, I recommend you engage a data cabler to wire it so that either the current cable segments are suitably linked together to get you from the ONT should go (presumably directly behind or very close to the ETP on the inside) and the location where you want the router to go. A data cabler may infact find it easier to pull a new run between those locations using the existing wiring as pull wires or fish a fresh.

 

I would not expect the Chorus techs to do the above, its not really in their brief, hence you need to engage a data cabler.

 

Where are you located, there may be some here on GZ that can assist.

 

Cyril


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  #3119670 24-Aug-2023 10:14
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We are in Orewa. Unfortunately we are on a single income and don’t have to funds to pay for this extra work. If we had the money, I would bypass Chorus altogether (believe me). 


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  #3119672 24-Aug-2023 10:16
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Is your alarm monitored by a security company?





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enzedone

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  #3119674 24-Aug-2023 10:17
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no not currently


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  #3119677 24-Aug-2023 10:20
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cyril7:

 

Hi thanks for the photos, but what it clearly shows is that its cat5/5e so suitable for GigE transport, I recommend you engage a data cabler to wire it so that either the current cable segments are suitably linked together to get you from the ONT should go (presumably directly behind or very close to the ETP on the inside) and the location where you want the router to go. A data cabler may infact find it easier to pull a new run between those locations using the existing wiring as pull wires or fish a fresh.

 

I would not expect the Chorus techs to do the above, its not really in their brief, hence you need to engage a data cabler.

 

Where are you located, there may be some here on GZ that can assist.

 

Cyril

 

 

 

 

Thanks but we have no access to that Box in the garage, too many roof trusses, seriously, it’s a mess. Criss crossing all over the place, steel frames everywhere. 400mm, 600mm, 888mm all interwoven.


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  #3119679 24-Aug-2023 10:29
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Highlighted pink trusses.

 

A=garage alarm/junction box

 

B=outlet to Router

 

 

 


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