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turtleattacks

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  #3213505 3-Apr-2024 10:20
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RunningMan:

 

As @cddt says this all looks like it's running about right. With mesh, you've got 3 seperate wifi links between your clients:

 

Mac -> AP1 -> AP2 -> Windows.

 

Each link adds potential for interference, extra latency and is a shared medium. You hadn't mentioned in the first post this was a mesh setup, but mesh is basically a tradeoff of conveiniance vs speed. It's easier to set up than running cables everywhere but will never perform as well in real world conditions.

 

Moving each client closer to the respective AP will increase their link speed, but if the bottleneck is the mesh backhaul between the APs then you still won;t get better performance.

 

Ultimately how important is this to you? If you want to get big improvements then you probably need to go cabled. Or, is there some other way of moving this data? External SSD perhaps?

 

 

I was looking to invest in new Powerline setup or see if I can buy new mesh devices but doesn't look like it'll work unless I hard cable the devices. 

 

I am looking to be storing my photo library (RAW+JPG) images on my W10 machine from my Macbook. So sometimes, it'll need to transfer 32GB at a time. 





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  #3213506 3-Apr-2024 10:24
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If it's only 32GB it might be best just to grab a decent flash drive and walk it.

 

Powerline is basically wifi over a power cable, so again, is a compromise for where you can't run an actual cable. Real world they rarely perform as well as the max specs.


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  #3213507 3-Apr-2024 10:27
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RunningMan:

 

If it's only 32GB it might be best just to grab a decent flash drive and walk it.

 

Powerline is basically wifi over a power cable, so again, is a compromise for where you can't run an actual cable. Real world they rarely perform as well as the max specs.

 

 

Yeah, think I might try to see if I can add a SD card reader to the W10 device, then share that drive. 

So the setup might be: 

Macbook (Lightroom) --> W10 (SD Drive) --> Macbook (Lightroom Catalogue) --> W10 (RAW Storage on WD Drive). 






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  #3213514 3-Apr-2024 11:03
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Are you unable to run a physical cable between the Mac and W10 PC?





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  #3213515 3-Apr-2024 11:04
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mentalinc:

 

Are you unable to run a physical cable between the Mac and W10 PC?

 

 

Think that's also an option. 

The W10 box is kind of hidden away in the living room and I'll need to get a USB-C network adapter for the Macbook. 

 

 





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  #3213520 3-Apr-2024 11:37
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Running ethernet cables is going to be the best way to solve. everything else is a compromise and likely to be a waste of money and not improve anything too much





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  #3213525 3-Apr-2024 11:57
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Did you end up trying an ad-hoc wireless hosted network? Assuming the Mac and Win10 PC are close by and not opposite ends of the house then that's the best way to maximise wireless performance (by eliminating the wireless access point hop) and without additional hardware. It's easy to route Internet access over the W10 box too.


 
 
 

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yitz:

 

Did you end up trying an ad-hoc wireless hosted network? Assuming the Mac and Win10 PC are close by and not opposite ends of the house then that's the best way to maximise wireless performance (by eliminating the wireless access point hop) and without additional hardware. It's easy to route Internet access over the W10 box too.

 

 

I've never tried that.... I'll Google how to do that after lunch and see if I can get it going. 





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  #3213529 3-Apr-2024 12:08
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Powerline won't give you better speeds than you're already seeing on wifi now. 





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  #3213531 3-Apr-2024 12:12
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cddt:

 

Powerline won't give you better speeds than you're already seeing on wifi now. 

 

 

Thanks, saved me $200 and lots of frustration. 





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  #3213582 3-Apr-2024 12:39
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gehenna:

 

I suspect the drive is as much of a bottleneck as network in this use case.

 

 

no way, even a slow 5400rpm spinning HDD shouldnt get maxed out by a gigabit connection.


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Jase2985:

 

gehenna:

 

I suspect the drive is as much of a bottleneck as network in this use case.

 

 

no way, even a slow 5400rpm spinning HDD shouldnt get maxed out by a gigabit connection.

 

 

 

 

as I have said before, there are lots of people that have slow smb from macos to windows - google it - most say they get around 20MB/s, do a speed test to the internet from mac if you got better than 20 MB/s internet- what speed do you get?

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=mac+smb+slow&rlz=1C1GCEU_enNZ1072NZ1072&oq=mac+smb+slow&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgAEAAYgAQyBwgAEAAYgAQyCAgBEAAYFhgeMggIAhAAGBYYHjIICAMQABgWGB4yCAgEEAAYFhgeMggIBRAAGBYYHjIICAYQABgWGB4yCAgHEAAYFhgeMggICBAAGBYYHjIICAkQABgWGB7SAQk1ODk3ajBqMTWoAgiwAgE&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#ip=1


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  #3213651 3-Apr-2024 14:02
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and I now remember my work around - if I scp from my windows to mac, I get a lot better throughput

 

to turn on scp on the mac

 

System Preferences pane → Sharing applet → check the Remote Login checkbox. This will enable SSH, and in turn, SCP.

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-Ter8IPJzg

 

 

 

 


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bagheera:

 

Jase2985:

 

no way, even a slow 5400rpm spinning HDD shouldnt get maxed out by a gigabit connection.

 

 

 

 

as I have said before, there are lots of people that have slow smb from macos to windows - google it - most say they get around 20MB/s, do a speed test to the internet from mac if you got better than 20 MB/s internet- what speed do you get?

 

 

Then that's not the drive that's the problem, its the OS/Protocol that's the problem.


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@Jase2985 I totally agree, most likely not wifi either


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