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turtleattacks

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Hi guys, 

I'm getting about 16MB/s to about 20MB/s when writing to a Windows 10 machine over the wireless 5GHz network using my Macbook. The harddrive is a Western Digital Red SATA drive. 

 

The W10 machine is pretty much receiving at around 120-160Mbps.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In terms of trying to speed this up, what should I be looking for which of the following will really speed this up?

 

  • New routers (currently using a Fritz! Box and some Orbi mesh devices)
  • New wireless cards on the Windows desktop machine. (Intel® 802.11ac Dual Band 867Mbps wireless supports MU-MIMO and BT4.2)
  • Powerline networking
  • New SSD drives on the Windows machine.

Edit #1: I did notice that when I plugged this Windows machine into the router using a CAT5 cable, I was also getting about 20MB/s so wireless isn't exactly much slower. Which leads me to believe that Powerline might not help.

 

Edit #2: When trying to copy to the same Windows computer over Wifi, to its SSD, speeds are not much faster. In fact, it's about the same. So the bottleneck is obviously not the drive. 

 

Edit #3: Copying from the Windows SSD to the Windows SATA drive was pretty much immediate for a 1.1GB file.

 

 

 

 

 

 





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  #3213111 2-Apr-2024 08:23
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Use CAT6 or CAT5e to wire both the Windows and Mac machines to your router. Then you'll get ~100 MB/s. 





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  #3213112 2-Apr-2024 08:29
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Wifi connect rate on the Macbook? (option key + click the wifi menu)


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"Edit #1: I did notice that when I plugged this Windows machine into the router using a CAT5 cable, I was also getting about 20MB/s so wireless isn't exactly much slower."

 

That to me would suggest some of the issue is the Mac book, but it also depends on how far you are from the router/AP

 

Use cables if you can, if you can't with 866Mbps wifi i would expect about 40MB/s (320Mbps) as you usually get slightly less than half the advertised speed.




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  #3213119 2-Apr-2024 08:48
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You wont know if the bottleneck is network or processing speed until you tried wired 

 

Use a USB-C network adapter to connect your MacBook to the LAN





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  #3213120 2-Apr-2024 08:54
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RunningMan:

 

Wifi connect rate on the Macbook? (option key + click the wifi menu)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So looks like 195Mb/s TX rate.

 

Looks like the bottleneck might be the Mac?

From my crude calculations 195Mb/s is about 27MB/s give or take.

 

Not that far from the transfer speeds I was getting. 





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  #3213126 2-Apr-2024 09:04
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how far away is the mac from the access point/router?


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  #3213135 2-Apr-2024 09:40
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Jase2985:

how far away is the mac from the access point/router?



About 10M with a wall in between.




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turtleattacks:
Jase2985:

 

how far away is the mac from the access point/router?

 



About 10M with a wall in between.

 

and if you sit next to it how fast is it?


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turtleattacks:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So your throughput is about what would be expected for that wifi connect rate. With 80MHz ac wifi you should be able to get about 4 times that if the network is not congested. Try moving closer to the wifi access point / router and re-test.


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  #3213208 2-Apr-2024 12:08
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Get a wifi 6e card like 210ax with wif6e those are much better ..




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An ad-hoc topology where WLAN adapters talk directly to each other will boost performance over infrastructure/AP mode.

 

On the Windows "server" you can set this up using netsh wlan set hostednetwork. Enable and disable as you need, use the ARP list command to find IP of the other machine, works great for one off transfers. You can also find GUI wrappers if you prefer.

 

 


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  #3213228 2-Apr-2024 14:07
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Where do the files live in the Mac? 
iCloud Drive?

 

 


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  #3213232 2-Apr-2024 14:10
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RunningMan:

 

turtleattacks:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So your throughput is about what would be expected for that wifi connect rate. With 80MHz ac wifi you should be able to get about 4 times that if the network is not congested. Try moving closer to the wifi access point / router and re-test.

 

 

Sorry if I'm being stupid but are you saying that 802.11ac WIFI (Wifi-5) should be able to get about 4x of what I'm getting in optimum conditions? 

 

 





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  #3213233 2-Apr-2024 14:16
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Good quality Wifi 5 (AC) router and device should be able to deliver ~400-500mbps real world throughput (connection speed may say 833 Mb/s) if you don't have a lot of wireless noise in the area and your relatively close.


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turtleattacks: Sorry if I'm being stupid but are you saying that 802.11ac WIFI (Wifi-5) should be able to get about 4x of what I'm getting in optimum conditions? 

 

Yep, exactly right. Your TX rate (195 currently) can go as high as 866 Mb/s under perfect conditions. Actual real world throughput would be roughly 60% of that.


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