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Topic # 119700 10-Jun-2013 22:18

Hi I bought a Netgear WNDR3700 without realising it is not an ADSL router which i'm not allowed to return. Note the Netgear runs DD-WRT so it's not the factory firmware.

I have no idea how to make it work with my Telecom supplied Thomson TG582n ADSL router so i can get internet ...

This is what i've done:

1) plug Thomson ethernet 1 to Netgear "Internet" port - the internet light is green whatever that means

2) log into Netgear and hit Setup - Basic Setup - WAN Connection Setup - DHCP

What's the next step?

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Reply # 833800 10-Jun-2013 22:28

i read this post reply # 660036

but the thomson says it is 0.0.0.0 and "inactive"

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Reply # 833805 10-Jun-2013 22:34

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Reply # 833807 10-Jun-2013 22:36

Ditch the Thomson and get a Drayte Vigor 120

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Reply # 833810 10-Jun-2013 22:46

so it wont work with the thomson?

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Reply # 833817 10-Jun-2013 23:03

I'm doing something similar with an older modem + DD-WRT wireless router. The setup goes:

Check the DHCP range on the Thompson.

On the Netgear on the Basic Setup page
- WAN Connection Type = Disabled, STP = Disable
- Network Setup
- Router IP = give it IP address that is outside of that range. Set the gateway and local dns server to the IP of the Thompson.
- WAN Port = tick Assign WAN Port to swtich
- Network Address Server = DHCP Forwarder and set the DHCP server to Thompson IP

And the cable connection stays how you have it - Thompson ethernet to Netgear Internet port

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Reply # 833831 10-Jun-2013 23:16

Ah it worked!

Thanks!

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Reply # 833834 10-Jun-2013 23:36

Should i plug my ethernet devices to the thomson or the netgear for best performance?

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Reply # 833843 11-Jun-2013 00:04

I'd be using the WNDR3700 only for both ethernet and wireless connections.

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Reply # 833873 11-Jun-2013 07:07

thanks that's what i thought and what i did :D

does anyone know the power consumption of the thomson and the netgear? is there a netgear equivalent that does both the ADSL modem and the N600 router 2-in-1 to save power?

thanks again

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Reply # 833896 11-Jun-2013 08:03

If you have both devices acting as a router you'll have double NAT occurring, which is less than ideal.

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Reply # 833911 11-Jun-2013 08:34

tigercorp: I'm doing something similar with an older modem + DD-WRT wireless router. The setup goes:

Check the DHCP range on the Thompson.

On the Netgear on the Basic Setup page
- WAN Connection Type = Disabled, STP = Disable
- Network Setup
- Router IP = give it IP address that is outside of that range. Set the gateway and local dns server to the IP of the Thompson.
- WAN Port = tick Assign WAN Port to swtich
- Network Address Server = DHCP Forwarder and set the DHCP server to Thompson IP

And the cable connection stays how you have it - Thompson ethernet to Netgear Internet port

This will be creating double NAT which is not good and could affect things like Skype or other p2p such as games etc.

Get a Draytek Vigor 120 modem and use it in bridge mode.

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Reply # 834074 11-Jun-2013 11:47

sbiddle: If you have both devices acting as a router you'll have double NAT occurring, which is less than ideal.

Forgot the add, to disable NAT in DD-WRT

- Advanced Settings - Operating Mode set to Router

*edit* But I think setting the WAN port to Switch mode avoids the double NAT anyway??

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Reply # 834082 11-Jun-2013 11:58

Thanks I think I'd already done that but will double check

instead of buying a draytek isn't there another netgear you can buy that is both adsl modem and n600 router or does it not exist?

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Reply # 834118 11-Jun-2013 12:42

Something like this one:
http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=MODNGR1533656&name=Netgear-DGND3700-v2-ADSL2+-Wireless-N600-Dual-Band

Try Vultr using this link and get us both some credit:

http://www.vultr.com/?ref=7033587-3B

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Reply # 839589 19-Jun-2013 16:24

can someone tell me the difference between the DGND3700 v1 and v2 and how do I tell if it's V2?

thanks