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Topic # 120872 16-Jun-2013 20:43
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We moved to a farm and needed a way to get internet from the wireless router in the house out to my sleep out about 60m straight and decided to get two 40m Ethernet cables and joiner going to a switch to split into more Ethernet cables for my PC, Xbox etc.

A year down the track the cable has broken in two places and become one Frankenstein cable which at the moment is giving terrible internet that i cant enjoy my games with.

What is the cheapest way for me to get a reliable gaming speed connection with minimal packet loss and ping?

Ran a speedtest in the main house and it had 11mb/ps down and 0.8mb/ps up, compared to out here where i now receive 0.3mb/ps down and the same up

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  Reply # 837789 16-Jun-2013 20:53
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How long are you going to be there?

I'd suggest a better cable - ideally underground rated e.g this. You will need RJ45 plugs on each end, either buy the tool and DIY it, or get the seller to put them on for you.

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  Reply # 837793 16-Jun-2013 20:58
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One long cable (can run upto 100m) via a hose pipe ;)




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  Reply # 837797 16-Jun-2013 21:04
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thanks, will look into that. what are the wireless options as in a few years they will be easier to uninstall and take with me.

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  Reply # 837798 16-Jun-2013 21:10
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wireless is choppy over that distance.

as the other guys suggested, use tough underground cat5 cable and terminate the end points with wall sockets or rj45 plugs.

the two 40m cables you had from the start were not a good option as you had a break in the copper half way down the run, that is really bad for copper attenuation.

one cable is defenitly the way to go, and bury it if you can, will reduce the chance of damage.

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  Reply # 837801 16-Jun-2013 21:18
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Cheapest option would probably be get a roll of network cable off trademe and garden hose protection.

You could try sourcing two cheap wifi routers off trade me that have good aerials and using DD-WRT firmware on them you can create a wifi bridge and repeater.

Or depending on what you want to spend there are these http://www.ascent.co.nz/productspecification.aspx?ItemID=393356 which you don't have to put outside can go in a window, you can create a wireless bridge.

I have not used a TP-link one myself but I have used Ubiquiti solutions like this, the longest siginal I have seen from a ubiquiti Nanostation was 17km.
That was from Ohakune to Turoa Base area.


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  Reply # 837817 16-Jun-2013 21:35
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I was thinking maybe grab this http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/cables-adaptors/networking/auction-604641148.htm and a crimping tool and maybe run in out the sleep-out down the fence line, put it in some garden hose to bury under the driveway (original was in a strong pipe going along the driveway but got snagged on the edge of a large trailer and snapped) then go along the house, into the window then router.

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  Reply # 837818 16-Jun-2013 21:37
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It's not an electric fence is it?

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  Reply # 837820 16-Jun-2013 21:41
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If you really want to keep cost down, then you could use underground phone cable which will support 100mb network speeds if you crimp RJ45 jacks on each end. Its underground rated so is waterproof and could be cabletied to a fence or if you have stock to worry about then burried.

Depends if you can get garden/irrigation hose for free i guess - in which case cheap indoor network cable would work



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  Reply # 837847 16-Jun-2013 22:27
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well the cables we have used were cheap indoor cables and the only problem was that it was joined in the middle outdoors and not buried.

and it is the edge of our property fence beside the road not by paddocks or livestock

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  Reply # 837872 17-Jun-2013 00:50
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If you are going to run the cable through a pipe use alkathene pipe not garden hose pipe.

PVC ducting is the gold standard but most farms will have alkathene pipe already on hand, it is farmer friendly technology and alkathene is good enough for what you want to do.

Garden hose pipe deteriorates underground




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  Reply # 837875 17-Jun-2013 01:08
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If the sleep out is power is connected on the same line (doubtful) as the main house you could try using ethernet over power option? but like i said im very doubtful....

otherwise underground it is.....

You could use a wireless option, but you'd need an antenna with high gain if you want a good connection and 1 that doesn't drop in bad weather or if someone walks past LOL... I've used this option when i was 3 doors away from my parents living

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  Reply # 837894 17-Jun-2013 06:52
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If nothing in the way ubiquiti nano stations will be rock solid over that distance.


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  Reply # 837904 17-Jun-2013 07:41
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Why not just replace the existing run with outdoor rated (as linked earlier) and just leave out the joint in the middle. that stuff has a good tuff polyethylene sheath that wont let water through and if it should the gel will stop it getting in any distance and playing havic with the dielectric properties. Just tie it to the fence as you have, as long as its all placed where it cannot be damaged then it should be fine as a cheap solution.

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  Reply # 837909 17-Jun-2013 08:14
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Several years ago I used the old Homeplug powerline adapters over 30m to a garage without any problem when the maximum distance was less than 100m. I had a server that was too noisy to leave in the house and it worked great from the garage.

The newer adapters generally say they get twice that distance now. The only issue is that, like wireless, it is not as consistent as a cabled connection.

[Edit: Plus you can reuse the adapters if you move unlike a buried cable. Here's a useful FAQ http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/lanwan/lanwan-basics/31585-smallnetbuilders-powerline-faq ]

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  Reply # 839602 19-Jun-2013 16:31
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cameron3226: I was thinking maybe grab this http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/cables-adaptors/networking/auction-604641148.htm and a crimping tool and maybe run in out the sleep-out down the fence line, put it in some garden hose to bury under the driveway (original was in a strong pipe going along the driveway but got snagged on the edge of a large trailer and snapped) then go along the house, into the window then router.

Don't get that cable, you need outdoor cable that gel-filled and has tougher waterproof jacket. The garden hose idea would give you some extra protection but something better would give you an option to bury it. You will have to push a line into the hose that can allow you to pull through the network cable.

If you go the wireless way, get directional antennae at each end.




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