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#138546 8-Jan-2014 11:58
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About to hop on the VDSL2 bandwagon when I move houses at the end of the month. The house is not yet in the UFB zone (boo!) but is good for VDSL2 (yay!). Spoke with Snap Internet to arrange the connection, but don't want to pay through the nose for a VDSL2 modem that will essentially be used as a bridge to my much more capable router/firewall. I've read reviews of the ZyXEL touting it as the best bang-for-buck modem to get, but I'm a fan of DrayTek, having used a Vigor 120 without any hiccups for the past 3-4 years for ADSL2+.

Can anyone comment on either?

Am inclined to go with the DrayTek at the moment.




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  #963191 8-Jan-2014 12:20
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Haven't used the DV130 yet. Use only the Zyxel and have had zero problems.

There was that firmware issue with the Drayteks when they first arrived but I believe that has been fixed now.

I would vote Zyxel simply because I know they work well and are super easy to set up.

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  #964091 9-Jan-2014 19:56
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+1 for the Zyxel. Easy to setup in bridge mode. Cheap. ( if $180 can be called cheap) :P ... Snap customer.

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  #964158 9-Jan-2014 21:44
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I have personally seen two zyxel's installed flawlessly.

On the other hand, ive seen one draytek 130 screw up its firmware during a flash, and then fail after that was fixed. Additionally the firmware was the most horrible i've ever used on a modem and required a reboot after almost every setting change - something that went away in later versions if i recall. The replacement unit rebooted even on snappernet's recommended firmware whenever certain devices requested DHCP leases. However when they updated to the international latest firmware direct from draytek, the problem went away.

So from this experience I suggest the zyxel, unless you simply must go for the cheaper draytek, in which case i recommend you make sure you at minimum have the snappernet firmware, but suggest the international one is probably a better bet again (unsupported by snappernet though).



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  #964161 9-Jan-2014 21:54
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We have sold Zyxel for 15 years. In that time I have had exactly 2 in warranty failures, both power supplies and both suspected to have been caused by power spike. I can't speak highly enough of them.

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  #964192 9-Jan-2014 22:48
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Thanks for the feedback. Will give the Zyxel a go. Any supplier recommendations? I have an account with Acquire and found them at $182 inc.




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  #964198 9-Jan-2014 23:30
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Good price if you're happy with the retailer. Go for it.

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  #964224 10-Jan-2014 00:26
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eXDee: I have personally seen two zyxel's installed flawlessly.

On the other hand, ive seen one draytek 130 screw up its firmware during a flash, and then fail after that was fixed. Additionally the firmware was the most horrible i've ever used on a modem and required a reboot after almost every setting change - something that went away in later versions if i recall. The replacement unit rebooted even on snappernet's recommended firmware whenever certain devices requested DHCP leases. However when they updated to the international latest firmware direct from draytek, the problem went away.

So from this experience I suggest the zyxel, unless you simply must go for the cheaper draytek, in which case i recommend you make sure you at minimum have the snappernet firmware, but suggest the international one is probably a better bet again (unsupported by snappernet though).


To be fair the first modem was confirmed broken and the newer one was just something to do with an incompatibility with the way OSX uses NAT-PMP and snappernets woefully out of date firmware.

But yeah I have had no problems with the Vigor130 after updating the firmware, it's stayed stable for 359 hours now with no sign of instability. 

Hopefully it treats me as well as the Vigor 120. Vigor 120 pretty much the best modem i've ever had :D





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  #964429 10-Jan-2014 12:15
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True. Though when snappernet starts distributing that international firmware, and it comes preloaded on it, then i might be more inclined to recommend it.

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  #964832 10-Jan-2014 18:13
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I bought a DV130 - used on ADSL2 on Slingshot for a week, rock solid, then over to Snap VDSL.

Been rock solid since (updated to new firmware the moment I turned it on) with PPPoE bridging.


Absolutely no problems and throughput is good.

One of the main reasons I didn't go with the Zyxel modem is because it doesn't support IPv6 - while not super important now, I don't plan on replacing hardware all the time, so may as well get something compatible. 


Plus, the cost was factored in because I got a good deal through PBTech on their christmas leadup sales. 

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  #965135 11-Jan-2014 15:24
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Noteworthy is if you are bridging it's at Layer 2, so you can still use IPv6 over a Zyxel if its in bridge mode - which is what the majority of the recommendations are for.

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  #965172 11-Jan-2014 17:02
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Zyxel is EOL and been replaced by another model which does VDSL AND ADSL.

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  #965180 11-Jan-2014 17:43
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Model number? Est availability?

And is the platform (chipset) similar?

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  #965288 12-Jan-2014 07:18
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Being EOL affects my decision greatly. Is this true?

I know the Vigor130 works for both VDSL2 and ADSL2+.




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  #965339 12-Jan-2014 10:12
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Even if it's going EOL, doesn't stop it being a great modem, if you can get one, I suggest getting one.

The new model is VMG8324-B10A and it's quite different, we are still getting used to it. I have been running it for about 2 months and had to reboot it once.

New modem has :

- VDSL/ADSL2+/Ethernet WAN with optional 3G USB support
- Gigabit Ethernet ports
- Wireless N 300 Mbps WiFi
- 2 x USB ports for 3G or Storage
- 2 x FXS Ports
- IPSEC VPN


We usually sell them for about $180 + GST.

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  #965407 12-Jan-2014 12:49
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I don't really consider that in the same category as a 1 or 4 port wired modem. Sounds like a standard all in one to me and is a bit more expensive than the P870 too. While you can disable all those features and probably bridge it anyway, people often like having a device that does one thing well.

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