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#139116 28-Jan-2014 14:46
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Hey guys,

What is the difference between IPv4 and IPv6??

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  #975970 28-Jan-2014 15:07
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not really sure this belongs under the Orcon page, but here have this wiki link, it should cover all your questions if you have time for the read

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6




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  #975989 28-Jan-2014 15:30
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The *MAIN* difference is the address size. IPv6 is 128 bits and IPv4 is 32 bits. The space is just hugely larger. There are new technologies with IPv6 also and for the most part, NAT is no longer used.




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  #975991 28-Jan-2014 15:36
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IPv6 is more designed at auto configuration etc
Also 6 > 4.... lol




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  #975993 28-Jan-2014 15:38
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Its a great big mess at the moment - something that should really have been sorted out 10 years ago




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  #975994 28-Jan-2014 15:40
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raytaylor: Its a great big mess at the moment - something that should really have been sorted out 10 years ago


How so?




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  #975995 28-Jan-2014 15:44
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Zeon:
raytaylor: Its a great big mess at the moment - something that should really have been sorted out 10 years ago


How so?


I think he means more along the lines of... ISP's in new Zealand aren't bothering with IPv6 just yet as there's still a reasonable amount of IPv4 to go around still....




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  #976013 28-Jan-2014 16:09
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Zeon:
raytaylor: Its a great big mess at the moment - something that should really have been sorted out 10 years ago


How so?


Half the routers you still buy at retail shops dont support IPv6
Most retail internet providers (including us) dont support IPv6
A lot of networked equipment such as IP security cameras, printers dont support IPv6

I would love to be issuing IPv6 numbers to our customers - except our upstream doesnt support it, our billing system doesnt yet support it (due mid 2014) and our radio network doesnt support it (been saying its coming via firmware upgrade for the last 2 years) 

We feel the urgency more than any other region and when i am talking to our radio manufacturers they dont seem to understand the pressure we have as APNIC and RIPE are the only ones with a final /8 policy in place. ARIN still has another year to go i think.




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  #976028 28-Jan-2014 16:23
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ISP's, hosting providers etc will provide IPv6 including transit when customers start demanding it

e.g. when standing up a web site etc only go with someone who can provide full IPv6, those that can't will soon get the msg !



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  #976190 28-Jan-2014 20:04
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freitasm: Marked the answer and moved to correct forum.


freitasm:

What do you mean?

Also why did you edit my post when there was nothing to edit??????  (shows that it was edited and i clicked on it and your name showed up)



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  #976192 28-Jan-2014 20:06
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xlinknz: ISP's, hosting providers etc will provide IPv6 including transit when customers start demanding it

e.g. when standing up a web site etc only go with someone who can provide full IPv6, those that can't will soon get the msg !


Does Orcon allow IPv6 cause in my router it says it does and my network stuff is ready.

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  #976247 28-Jan-2014 21:16
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Kiwiprobie:
xlinknz: ISP's, hosting providers etc will provide IPv6 including transit when customers start demanding it

e.g. when standing up a web site etc only go with someone who can provide full IPv6, those that can't will soon get the msg !


Does Orcon allow IPv6 cause in my router it says it does and my network stuff is ready.


We are trialling it in some areas of the Orcon network, Soundude will update us on progress as it is made I'm sure :-)




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  #976291 28-Jan-2014 22:24
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raytaylor:
Zeon:
raytaylor: Its a great big mess at the moment - something that should really have been sorted out 10 years ago


How so?


Half the routers you still buy at retail shops dont support IPv6
Most retail internet providers (including us) dont support IPv6
A lot of networked equipment such as IP security cameras, printers dont support IPv6

I would love to be issuing IPv6 numbers to our customers - except our upstream doesnt support it, our billing system doesnt yet support it (due mid 2014) and our radio network doesnt support it (been saying its coming via firmware upgrade for the last 2 years) 

We feel the urgency more than any other region and when i am talking to our radio manufacturers they dont seem to understand the pressure we have as APNIC and RIPE are the only ones with a final /8 policy in place. ARIN still has another year to go i think.


Haha you should read my blog on exactly that subject. It's not a huge deal to (and I epxect everyone) will be running a dual stack network for a time to come.

Who is your upstream? Tell them you need it when it comes to contract renegotiating time...

I definitely get what you say about US software/device suppliers though. I remember having the conversation with our mail server provider (Smartermail) who didn't understand APNICs status.

So Orcon have IPv6 on fibre and colocation although I don't think many customers actually use it. How many you got on IPv6 Orcon?

We have full connectivity on business fibre (not UFB) with Unleash. Over the weekend I became their first DSL customer with it enabled too :). Pretty cool seeing the prefix delegation etc. in action but not easy to configure on mikrotik. 




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  #976438 29-Jan-2014 09:01
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Kiwiprobie:
freitasm: Marked the answer and moved to correct forum.


freitasm:

What do you mean?

Also why did you edit my post when there was nothing to edit??????  (shows that it was edited and i clicked on it and your name showed up)


He is one of the Admins on GeekZone and as this was not posted on the correct forum page, he moved it, unsure what he edited on your comment, but I know for mine he added in the hyperlink to the wiki page.




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