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#143689 23-Apr-2014 20:55
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Weirdness.

I've stayed away from torrents for years because of the legality and general dodginess aspect. But recently I've reason to get some (legit) files and am noticing a strange problem. I start a download and after a few minutes my broadband router will disconnect and drop the DSL connection.

I can restart and restart the router without success until I stop the torrent from the client (Tixati) and then another restart will bring the connection up again. I restart the torrent and it will run again for a while before falling off.

This has happened since I started. I've tried throttling the connection in both directions with no luck. I'm running Windows 7 and have a Vodafone DSL2 connection, usually around 12 Mbps.

Anyone with any ideas?

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  #1030103 23-Apr-2014 20:57
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Use uTorrent (just because, no real reason). Set the connection limit low, maybe 50. Could be the router getting overwhelmed by connections and resetting.



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  #1030107 23-Apr-2014 21:01
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Sh*tty modem? Try a different one.
What brand is it?

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  #1030131 23-Apr-2014 21:13
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defiantly sounds like your simply flooding your router.

iver get a new one, or tweak your connection rates down probably under 100.


you dont need to connect to 5000 people just to download a file if theres enough decent sharers to connect to, they will go just as fast, if not faster.


take HTTP threading in download managers (aka. Download Accelerators) they limit to 8 connections (given to a generally faster connected server).




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  #1030159 23-Apr-2014 21:36
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It's quite probable I've a sh1tty modem - it's a DLink 502T from Telecom. However I'm not going to replace it as a) I can't afford it and b) I'm hoping to get fibre later this year.

I've now throttled down to 200 KBps now and it appears stable (has stayed up 30 minutes, woohoo), so I'll see how things go. I can't find the HTTP threading limit so will look more later.

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  #1030161 23-Apr-2014 21:40
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Jonski: It's quite probable I've a sh1tty modem - it's a DLink 502T from Telecom. However I'm not going to replace it as a) I can't afford it and b) I'm hoping to get fibre later this year.

I've now throttled down to 200 KBps now and it appears stable (has stayed up 30 minutes, woohoo), so I'll see how things go. I can't find the HTTP threading limit so will look more later.

Thanks troops!
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what client is this?


sorry i may have confused you with the HTTP bit.


your looking for something that would be along the lines of "connection limit" (not speed limit). as your looking to move to fiber soon, you could possibly look at a dsl modem which will support a fiber connection too.




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  #1030245 24-Apr-2014 06:45
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Jonski: It's quite probable I've a sh1tty modem - it's a DLink 502T from Telecom. However I'm not going to replace it as a) I can't afford it and b) I'm hoping to get fibre later this year.

I've now throttled down to 200 KBps now and it appears stable (has stayed up 30 minutes, woohoo), so I'll see how things go. I can't find the HTTP threading limit so will look more later.

Thanks troops!
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Throttle connection numbers, not speed, otherwise it could keep happening.

 
 
 

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  #1030555 24-Apr-2014 13:01
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Progress report: 200 Kbps didn't cut the mustard. I'm now down to 50 Kbps and it held up last night. However, it's gonna take a while to get the files.

Also, it seems I can't stream more than one torrent at a time, so I'm guessing that the number of simultaneous connections is an issue here. Even at one stream, if I then go and surf the net I have a good chance of falling off the net.

So I'll do a little more investigation tonight and see what's up.

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  #1030561 24-Apr-2014 13:14
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Jonski: Progress report: 200 Kbps didn't cut the mustard. I'm now down to 50 Kbps and it held up last night. However, it's gonna take a while to get the files.

Also, it seems I can't stream more than one torrent at a time, so I'm guessing that the number of simultaneous connections is an issue here. Even at one stream, if I then go and surf the net I have a good chance of falling off the net.

So I'll do a little more investigation tonight and see what's up.

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yes.

your issue is nothing todo with throughput (speed) but the amount of connections your making to get that content.


once again ill ask, what torrent client are you using? 




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  #1030572 24-Apr-2014 13:25
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When I saw this thread title I thought "It's either a 502T or a Thomson.

That D-Link modem is one of the worst modems to ever hit the market.  Almost anything else you buy will be unequivocally better than that.

Here, buy this: Netgear DG834G V4

Not only is it a great little unit, but if you feel like Geeking out, you can flash it with custom firmware allowing for many more features and perks over stock.  Line tweaks for a faster ADSL connection...etc.  On a stock Dynalink my city connection was roughly 14Mb/s.  With the DG834G, I could tweak the signal to noise ratio all the way down and get a stable 17.5Mb/s

Definitely worth it if you ask me!

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  #1030575 24-Apr-2014 13:32
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DravidDavid: When I saw this thread title I thought "It's either a 502T or a Thomson.

That D-Link modem is one of the worst modems to ever hit the market.  Almost anything else you buy will be unequivocally better than that.

Here, buy this: Netgear DG834G V4

Not only is it a great little unit, but if you feel like Geeking out, you can flash it with custom firmware allowing for many more features and perks over stock.  Line tweaks for a faster ADSL connection...etc.  On a stock Dynalink my city connection was roughly 14Mb/s.  With the DG834G, I could tweak the signal to noise ratio all the way down and get a stable 17.5Mb/s

Definitely worth it if you ask me!


502Ts arent all that bad, used to hold a rock solid sync for me. if you thrash them though, yes they will fall over.


wouldnt say suggesting SNR tweaking in this case would be very good however.




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  #1030580 24-Apr-2014 13:47
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hio77: once again ill ask, what torrent client are you using? 


Sorry, that was in my OP: Tixati.

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  #1030583 24-Apr-2014 13:55
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Jonski:
hio77: once again ill ask, what torrent client are you using? 


Sorry, that was in my OP: Tixati.

Cheers
Jon


AH. never heard of this one before. seems a lot of control.


considering what router you have, ild configure like so.




should hopefully handle a bit better after that.




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  #1030596 24-Apr-2014 14:15
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I have been able to get the Thomson that Telecom gives out with VDSL2 to consistently reboot while torrenting.

too many connections.

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  #1030616 24-Apr-2014 14:34
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Take the connection limit as low as required to keep it working. Even one connection should be able to give you more than 200kbps, but it depends on the torrent. 10 (global limit) should be ample if you're patient.

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  #1030664 24-Apr-2014 15:28
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many years ago I had a 502T and it was being consistently killed off by torrents.
Only way I could keep it going was to set a global connection of 150 with a maximum number of connections per torrent at 50 and a max of three active torrents. Also had to limit the upload bandwidth to about 50kb

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