Problems in connecting an IPAQ 5450 to the LAN

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Steffen

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#145 11-Mar-2003 00:55

I read the articel on "How to share your internet connection via Bluetooth to your Pocket PC iPAQ H5450" which is very helpful.

I get the iPAQ connected to my desktop but for some reason cannot browse any files although there are shared folders.

- I'm using a standalone WIN XP Pro mashine with an Acer BT 500 Bluetooth USB stick

I'm not sure where to put the IP, in the LAN connection or in the Bluetooth connvetion ? DOes the iPAQ have to have an IP too ? (Tried it as well but without success)
Whta I want to do is primarily browse the Web using the iPAQ. The desktop has a DSL connection.

Any help welcome...

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#54 11-Mar-2003 13:10

The Bluetooth connection allows you to share the internet connection, like a pass-through, but it'll not create a network connection between your Pocket PC and your local area network.

I think this can be used with the new TDK 1.3.27 software, but I have to test it yet. I'll update this later!

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#55 11-Mar-2003 16:00

You might want to get this free utility vxUtil from here: http://www.cam.com/vxutil.html

Now you can not browse in the way you can with My Network Places. What you should be able to do is enter the name of your PC, say \\SteffenDesk and see all that you are sharing on it. Using the built in Pocket File Explorer (PIE). Note that you can not enter 192.168.0.1, it will only work with the Name of your PC. And that you must have changed the name of your PPC from Pocket_PC.

With the vxUtil you can ping your desktop by name, so enter SteffenDesk, or what ever you call it and see if it will ping.

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The Bluetooth connection allows you to share the internet connection, like a pass-through, but it'll not create a network connection between your Pocket PC and your local area network.

:-) This is wrong, the 1.3.2.7 will create a virtural Network adapter in your PC, and when used with the 1.3.1 Build 46 Bluetooth for Windows CE it will also install a virtural network card in your 3970, just like in the 5455. The vxUtil can work with this virtural network card to display all the info, just like the WLAN card.

Steffen

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#74 12-Mar-2003 21:01

David,

I got the vxUtil tool, here is what happens.

As mentioned I can connect the Pocket PC to the desktop but not browse any folders on the desktop ("Network path nou found..."). The desktop LAN connection has the IP 192.168.0.1
I don't have an IP on the Bluetooth connection of the desktop.

vxUtil tells me that the iPAQ itself has the IP 164.254.131.x ?? the Ethernet adapter and the Bluetooth PAN driver do NOt have IPs.

I use the 1.3.2.7 version of Widcomm.

Any ideas what i can try to be able to browse the desktop and the internet ?

David Hettel

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#83 14-Mar-2003 06:12

Ok from what you have posted I know what part/maybe all of your problem is. You do not have ICS setup correctly. I hope this is your home setup?

First problem, is your desktop to connect to your router/internet is using 192.168.0.1, If I understand what you have written. So you need to get into your router and change the DHCP range it is using from 192.168.0.0 ~ 192.168.0.255 to 192.168.1.0 ~ 192.168.1.255.

ICS to work correctly needs the 192.168.0.0 ~ 192.168.0.255 space for itself. Note that if you do this correctly, you will be disconnected from your router, and the internet. You'll need to turn off all computers, and the router. Turn the router back on, wait 4 or 5 minutes for it to do it's thing, and then turn back on your computers, one at a time. They should now be able to connect to the router, and the internet again. And they will have an address in the 192.168.1.1 ~ 192.168.1.244 space.

Once you have done this, you then need to share your "main or Internet" connection. When you share this connection correctly. ICS will put two values in your Bluetooth adapter, the IP address and the subnet mask. You can check that NetBIOS is setup to use TCP/IP on your Bluetooth adapter. That is it.

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Steffen

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#84 14-Mar-2003 08:40

Hi David,

no, that was a misunderstanding. Sorry for that. Here’s all details:

Yes I’m using my home desktop PC (just 1 mashine):
- it has a network card. The only purpose of the network card is the DSL connection
(I don’t have a router and no other mashines)
- I’m using an Acer BT 500 USB Adapter with the Widcomm 1.3.2.7 software

What I want to do is:
- use th iPAQ to browse files on the desktop (i got NetUse)
- surf the web using the iPAQ

In the network connections are:
- a LAN connection, also named LAN. In this one I have the IP 192.168.0.1
- a Dial Up Connection fom my DSL provider (I cannot put an IP in this one the provider doesn’t allow it). This one I think I will have to share, right ?
- a LAN connection named “Bluetooth Network”

Current situation
- I can use ActicveSync using Bluetooth, no problem
- I can connect using network acces, it shows an outgoing connection. In the Bluetooth neighbouthood I can also see that there is a connection. However, I cannot browse any files using NetUse, nor can I browse the internet
- Simple sharing is NOT activated
- NetBios over IP IS activated

Any ideas what the problem could be ?

Thanks a lot for your help !!

Steffen

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#85 14-Mar-2003 08:44

Stephen, have a look at this discussion.

Andy has got his ipaq on the internet now, following some instructions.

Pay attention to the welcome.exe instruction I posted there too and David's comments on configuration!

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#87 14-Mar-2003 10:44

Hi Steffen;

I think what you need to do first is On your PC go to run enter CMD, and in the window enter ipconfig /all. And then copy the results and send it to me. What you'll need to do is share one of your connections, I'm hoping I can learn enough from the above to tell you which one.

My thought is you need to share the dail-up connection. But your LAN card is using the IP space you need, so if your computer is working now. It is possible that your DSL provider has chosen this address just so we can not do this. :-(

I'm trying to find more info on this now, and will get back to you.

David

Steffen

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#88 14-Mar-2003 10:57

Hey, it works now !!!

Here's what I did:
- ran the welcome.exe
- did a soft reset

The problem was that on the desktop PC the LAN conncetion and the Bluetooth network both had the IP adress 192.168.0.1. (Silly enough. I know.... :-)) I removed it from the LAN connection and everything works fine now. I can browse and browse files.

THANKS A LOT for yor help !!!!!!!!

Best regards

Steffen

Steffen

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#89 14-Mar-2003 12:29

I thought about my statement with the 2 IPs (192.168.0.1). I'm pretty sure that I played around with each having one but not both togehter.
Could it be that the IP was still in the Bluetooth and just got updated (deleted) by running the welcome.exe ?

THANKS AGAIN !!!

Steffen

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#95 16-Mar-2003 15:43

Well, this is great news! another user with bluetooth working...

Well done guys! Thanks David, and good on you, Steffen

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#109 21-Mar-2003 02:23

I finally got Bluetooth working on my h5450 so that I can surf the internet. But does anyone know why I need two profiles in the Bluetooth manager to connect. Plus it seems that I have to activate an active snyc in order to connect also. Why is this? Authentication?

Am I doing this wrong? I wished the article could have shown me possible problems I might encounter.

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#110 21-Mar-2003 09:23

With Bluetooth, there are a number of ways to connect to the internet. Just how you connect depends on both your hardware, and software. With a widcomm bluetooth device, you can set up a virtural LAN connection on both the PC and the PPC. With a 3Com card on your PC you can not setup a lan connection. You must use Activesync. IMHO the widcomm is the way to go, it is much more versatile than the 3Com. Even with the 3Com costing about 3 times as much.

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#114 23-Mar-2003 04:42

I just purchased a Belkin Bluetooth USB Adapter (F8T001) for my notebook computer. I have been able to Activesync my 5450 through a bluetooth connection but for the life of me I have not been able to establish a Network Access connection. I have followed your online guide but stil no luck. I am loosing my mind here! Any help you be greatfully appricated.

I have attached an image of my 5450 trying to connect. I don't know if this might help.

Thanks.

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#117 23-Mar-2003 13:36

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#196 22-Apr-2003 01:41

Hi,

Noticed this thread, now a challenging question which has to be asked due to a silly error I made whilst purchasing my laptop.

I have a configured and working linksys wireless router feeding onto my Not so broadband NTL connection. I buy cheapest laptop in the shop believing all laptops have PC Card slots. Horror of horrors, no PC Card Slot. So I am tethered to a cable to access the web from my laptop. Not good.

Now the question, I have a WL110 802.11b PC Card for my Compaq 3970 which works great with my wireless connection. But the screen is a little small and I really miss the keyboard. I also have a Bluetooth USB dongle. Range aproximatley the length of a small call.

How do I setup my 3970 as a router so that I can access the web from the USB dongle in my laptop to the inbuilt Bluetooth in the Compaq and then back out on the 802.11b to the WAP and onto the information highway, which I spend most of my time on.

The battery time on the Compaq is not an issue as it last approx. 8 hrs constant and the laptop only lasts about 2 hrs so I don't see a problem there.

Any suggestions, answers or comments?

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