Why is there a dearth of decent VDSL2 modems in NZ?

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#152186 18-Sep-2014 17:33

Given up on the crappy Who-Are-We Vodafone modem, which doesn't retain manual settings, and requires a DSL restart every second day.

Why are there so few decent offerings in the VDSL2 modem market, and why are the few available so stupidly expensive - they're usually old 802.11n tech, nothing special in terms of features and they still want $300+...

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#1131619 18-Sep-2014 17:42

because you are looking in the wrong places?

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#1131620 18-Sep-2014 17:43

excellent reply, cheers

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#1131627 18-Sep-2014 17:50

Most ISP's sell their modems and some have better specs you have listed for less than what you have stated

there are also the ASUS range of modems out there and they again have better specs than you listed and for generally less than you have listed

where have you looked?

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#1131635 18-Sep-2014 17:53

Zyxel, Draytech, Asus... All rather old and over-priced. Have a soft spot for TP-Link, so asked them about a release date for the TD-9980, but haven't had a reply.

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#1131642 18-Sep-2014 18:00

What modem do Vodafone hand out? Don't they give you a HG659 or is that on UFB only? The HG659 is a great router, really solid.

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#1131657 18-Sep-2014 18:09

You seem very keen on having a all in one device.

that does limit you a little.

what usage scenario is your network based around?

Cant say i have seen many of the Vodafone VDSL routers dying every day, so i suspect your situation is a special case - are you hammering it with too many P2P connections by chance?

VDSL is a Premium service, and you will be paying a premium on any Modems compared to an ADSL equivalent.

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#1131660 18-Sep-2014 18:11

Also I wouldn't go for an all-in-one if you want solid syncs (apart from HG659, thats a nice router) and just get a VDSL modem and a router.

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#1131708 18-Sep-2014 19:07

Gorse: Zyxel, Draytech, Asus... All rather old and over-priced. Have a soft spot for TP-Link, so asked them about a release date for the TD-9980, but haven't had a reply.

The Zyxel and Netcomm and Asus offerings are both good.

Maybe you need to take a step back and actually define what your actual requirements are, because the reality these days is if you're somebody who sees the products on the market as poor is probably looking at the wrong products, and should really be looking an individual options for a modem, router and wireless. The reality is there isn't (and never will be) an all in one unit that will be able to meet all requirements.

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#1131838 18-Sep-2014 21:53

dcole13: What modem do Vodafone hand out? Don't they give you a HG659 or is that on UFB only? The HG659 is a great router, really solid.

Heh no it aint.... go read the V/fone community forum.... Ive got an ongoing saga with the 659 and a lot more appear to as well.... has great features, just a pity it dosent know what to do with them ;)

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#1131839 18-Sep-2014 21:55

xpd:
dcole13: What modem do Vodafone hand out? Don't they give you a HG659 or is that on UFB only? The HG659 is a great router, really solid.

Heh no it aint.... go read the V/fone community forum.... Ive got an ongoing saga with the 659 and a lot more appear to as well.... has great features, just a pity it dosent know what to do with them ;)

interesting. ill have to hunt down said topic on their forums.

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#1131840 18-Sep-2014 21:58

hio77:
xpd:
dcole13: What modem do Vodafone hand out? Don't they give you a HG659 or is that on UFB only? The HG659 is a great router, really solid.

Heh no it aint.... go read the V/fone community forum.... Ive got an ongoing saga with the 659 and a lot more appear to as well.... has great features, just a pity it dosent know what to do with them ;)

interesting. ill have to hunt down said topic on their forums.

Please link on here if you find

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#1131841 18-Sep-2014 22:19

hio77:
xpd:
dcole13: What modem do Vodafone hand out? Don't they give you a HG659 or is that on UFB only? The HG659 is a great router, really solid.

Heh no it aint.... go read the V/fone community forum.... Ive got an ongoing saga with the 659 and a lot more appear to as well.... has great features, just a pity it dosent know what to do with them ;)

interesting. ill have to hunt down said topic on their forums.

So your issue is with the wireless of the device it seems.

hm...

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#1131842 18-Sep-2014 22:21

hio77:
hio77:
xpd:
dcole13: What modem do Vodafone hand out? Don't they give you a HG659 or is that on UFB only? The HG659 is a great router, really solid.

Heh no it aint.... go read the V/fone community forum.... Ive got an ongoing saga with the 659 and a lot more appear to as well.... has great features, just a pity it dosent know what to do with them ;)

interesting. ill have to hunt down said topic on their forums.

So your issue is with the wireless of the device it seems.

hm...

+1 for the wireless issues. Only had the router since Saturday but today (Thursday) it has been flaky and needing restarts. Although, 5GHZ worked fine.

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#1131846 18-Sep-2014 22:34

good place to get VDSL modems IMHO is PBTech
http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?p=search&sf=vdsl+modem&o=price&d=n

Netcomm NF4V is good for an 'all in one', and under $200 (that's what I use)

Draytek 130 is excellent if you just want the modem and have separate router. Its around $150

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#1131930 19-Sep-2014 08:13

dcole13:
hio77:
xpd:
dcole13: What modem do Vodafone hand out? Don't they give you a HG659 or is that on UFB only? The HG659 is a great router, really solid.

Heh no it aint.... go read the V/fone community forum.... Ive got an ongoing saga with the 659 and a lot more appear to as well.... has great features, just a pity it dosent know what to do with them ;)

interesting. ill have to hunt down said topic on their forums.

Please link on here if you find

http://community.vodafone.co.nz/t5/Modems-home-Wi-Fi/HG659-Wifi-very-flaky/

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