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# 177172 24-Jul-2015 20:38
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So I purchased a new router, as the existing one was playing up, freezing, needing resets and such and I am ashamed of buying it as it's a no-name chinese brand router which I probably can't track down but has a basic configuration menu shown here http://puu.sh/jaUI7/02b67bb023.png

Anyhow, I tried connecting the internet cable (WAN) I guess it's called into the new modem. After further investigation, it appears this new router, the Tplink TL-WDR3600 does not accept PPPOA connections, the ones my ISP (Orcon) gave to me, only PPPOE. The list is shown here http://puu.sh/jaUMm/04d9c93f8d.png 

So, for the meanwhile as I am looking to eliminate the old wireless router from my setup, I am running the internet through the modem as usual and broadcasting wifi and connecting ethernet into the new modem. I don't think I have the ideal method in doing this either - I simply turned off wifi on my old modem and only enabling wifi broadcasting on my new one, I'm not sure if that's the best way of doing it. I have an ethernet cable coming out of the old modem going to the new modems WAN port. However, I still experience freezing and lag now and again but in less frequency which is why I want to eliminate the old white router.

Is there any possible thing I can do to just remove this crappy Tenda chinese modem out of my setup and have it directly pass through my new router (TL-WDR3600)? I think I could be doing something wrong, I've said the most I could without being a tech genius. I have access to all of my PPPOA information from my old router.

Thanks a lot, if you need any more information to help me out and try eliminate this router please let me know.

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  # 1351380 24-Jul-2015 21:30
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yes you can but its not recommended. Best option is to get a draytek and do a PPPoA pass-through to PPPoE. I you just want it for WiFi turn all the features of the new router off and also DHCP give it an ip address in the same range as your old one setup the WiFi security and plug it in.

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  # 1351421 25-Jul-2015 00:01
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Isnt PPPoA for DSL?
I dont think many chinese no-brand routers have DSL built in.




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  # 1351455 25-Jul-2015 08:06
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You might want to explain what your actual setup is.

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  # 1351456 25-Jul-2015 08:07
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Connecting a phone line to the Ethernet WAN interface will hardly be good for the router's health. And you won't find PPPoA on such a device. The PPPoA details obviously belong in the device with the DSL interface.




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  # 1351667 25-Jul-2015 18:12
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Sounds like you need an ADSL modem to either act as a bridge or do the ADSL login for you. PPPoA is definitely for a DSL type connection, so the router that has a modem in it will also have a smaller RJ11 socket for the phone line. Sounds like your router is a normal one that gets its internet from an ethernet link to another device (such as an ADSL modem).

I have mine setup like that, with a Dynalink modem configured as half bridge (on this modem its called "PPP IP extension") and changed its address to 192.168.0.1 to avoid a conflict with the router which is 192.168.1.1. This means the modem does NOT do any routing, it just sets up the connection and then hands the external IP address and all the traffic straight to the router.

For some reason my router forwards the 192.168.0.1 address to my modem so I can still access modem from the LAN. If internet dies, I just have to check the PPP light on the modem and perhaps try to login to the above address before deciding if its worth also restarting the router.




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  # 1351838 26-Jul-2015 09:54

Be careful with Tenda modems/routers. As there have been cases of them having their management webpages exposed to the internet. And exposing their DNS server to the internet as well.







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Wannabe Geek


  # 1373410 24-Aug-2015 22:07
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Bump, I'm still looking for a fix. What is the cheapest option here? I want to throw my old router in the bin, not use it as a bridge.

 
 
 
 


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  # 1373415 24-Aug-2015 22:21
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You will need a modem in bridge mode. Look at the Draytek Vigor 130





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  # 1373445 24-Aug-2015 23:46
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You have DSL. You will need a modem of some sort.

If you want it good, buy a Draytek Vigor 130.

If you want it cheap, go buy a RTA1320. This modem gives you a stable connection, but it has a tendency of dying early, so might be a good idea to buy a few.

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  # 1373446 24-Aug-2015 23:46

Sharpshovel: Bump, I'm still looking for a fix. What is the cheapest option here? I want to throw my old router in the bin, not use it as a bridge.


If you are in Auckland I can give you an old dynalink rta1320. Supposedly they work well in full bridge. That assumes you have ADSL. If you have VDSL then get the draytek DV 130. It also does ADSL. Another option is the draytek DV 120. But that is ADSL only.





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  # 1373466 25-Aug-2015 07:14
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Sharpshovel: Bump, I'm still looking for a fix. What is the cheapest option here? I want to throw my old router in the bin, not use it as a bridge.


You still haven't explained what your setup is so it's hard to offer any solutions.

Presumably based on your post you have an ADSL or VDSL2 connection, in which case you still need to have a modem.





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  # 1374870 26-Aug-2015 20:18
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I'm with an ADSL connection, ADSL2 broadband Orcon Unlimited plan.

 

NETWORK CAPABILITY

 

  • Broadband > 10 Mbps
I'm fairly sure its the tenda thats the issue here. I often go to 192.168.1.1 to reset the modem from the web, but it often doesnt respond or comes up with an error, but shortly works after an on/off flip. 

Some screenshots:
http://puu.sh/jOZcx/6853496070.png
http://puu.sh/jOZeM/4880997323.png


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  # 1374871 26-Aug-2015 20:28
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Sharpshovel: Bump, I'm still looking for a fix. What is the cheapest option here? I want to throw my old router in the bin, not use it as a bridge.


The cheapest option is to use your ISP supplied modem. They can also then most likely provide you support for any problems with it.

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  # 1374891 26-Aug-2015 21:34
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Agreed.  You may need to sign up for a time is all.

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  # 1374972 26-Aug-2015 23:51

Did Orcon supply you with a modem/ router? If so they probally would have supplied with one of the genius black routers. Otherwise you would have gotten an Netcomm NF4V (called the genius white) Although the genius black router is nothing special. It is still far better than a tenda router. And the genius white is a really good router.







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