How to HG659B as an AP only

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# 185148 11-Nov-2015 18:15

Have spent a few hours on this matter with no success. Would appreciate your wisdom and experiences.

I use VB104W (slingshot modem) to connect to the net and intended to use HG659B as an access point. It worked well when I had an Airport Express but no luck with the HG659B.

I put the HG659B in Bridge mode (under INTERNET-TR069-ETH-VID-10) and the status shows "connected". Even though, there's no Internet access.

Am I missing something?

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# 1426411 11-Nov-2015 18:25

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Forget bridge mode, that's nothing to do with that you want.

Disable DHCP, give the device an IP on the same /24 subnet your router is giving out (so you can log into the device) and simply plug a cable from the LAN port of your router into the LAN port of the HG659

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# 1426416 11-Nov-2015 18:29

I think you'll find the HG659b is a much more solid modem/router than the VB104W. I would ditch the VB104W all together or just use it as an AP if you have a dead spot in the house.

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# 1426418 11-Nov-2015 18:41

Thanks for the prompt answer.

I've done what you mentioned. I am able to access my modem via HG659BB but still no luck with Internet access.

Any check I can do?

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# 1426423 11-Nov-2015 18:44

lxsw20: I think you'll find the HG659b is a much more solid modem/router than the VB104W. I would ditch the VB104W all together or just use it as an AP if you have a dead spot in the house.

Was my initial plan actually. Tried it but cannot get it to work with Slingshot VDSL; even talked to their Service Centre but was getting anywhere.

Would appreciate any suggestion that can make this happen.

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# 1426436 11-Nov-2015 18:46

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Reset it to factory defaults, put in your slingshot username and password, thats it.

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# 1426496 11-Nov-2015 19:56

lxsw20: Reset it to factory defaults, put in your slingshot username and password, thats it.

May I presume I also need to plug the VDSL line into the HG659B? If works, could we expect any speed increase?

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# 1426509 11-Nov-2015 20:23

Well yes if you plan to use it as a modem you need to feed the phone line into it...forget the other modem for a start, just focus on the HG659b. Get that working and go from there.

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# 1426523 11-Nov-2015 20:39

I can confirm this modem also works with Slingshot VDSL. I did a speed test on Slingshot website and found it's even faster (2.4MB/s vs. 2.1MB/s download) than the VB104W.

Many thanks to those who chimed in and offered advice. Much appreciated it.

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# 1441474 6-Dec-2015 18:28

I was trying to do the same thing you are with HG659 and noticed I can't make it work.

I think what happens is the HG659's WAN port is set to use VLAN10 for the fibre modem box, making it unable to be used as an Access Point.

This is further explanation on why I know WAN is using VLAN10 for fibre internet...
http://www.gargoyle-router.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=6230&p=25367&hilit=fibre#p25367

I can't find any option to change the WAN VLAN settings, so the only possible option to make it work is create a VLAN10 on your router for the HG659 router. I didn't bother trying this but I know this should work if it can be configured...

FYI, if you don't know what VLAN is, just take my word and consider this as impossible to do.

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# 1468280 12-Jan-2016 10:24

Hi - I would also like to use my router modem as an access point.

Having read this thread - it appears to contradict this thread ?
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=66&topicid=185394

I'd like to use one of my spare Router/Modems as a WiFi accesspoint (I have my original Pace V5542 and a brand new HG695b both available)

As an aside I tried to use my Pace V5542 Gateway as an access point - when I turned off DHCP on the V5542 and plugged an Ethernet cable into one of the LAN Ports on the HG659b - and other end into the V5542 - it seemed to cause an IP conflict with the HG659b. I then had trouble accessing the V5542...

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# 1468293 12-Jan-2016 10:45

ericwong: I was trying to do the same thing you are with HG659 and noticed I can't make it work.

I think what happens is the HG659's WAN port is set to use VLAN10 for the fibre modem box, making it unable to be used as an Access Point.

This is further explanation on why I know WAN is using VLAN10 for fibre internet...
http://www.gargoyle-router.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=6230&p=25367&hilit=fibre#p25367

I can't find any option to change the WAN VLAN settings, so the only possible option to make it work is create a VLAN10 on your router for the HG659 router. I didn't bother trying this but I know this should work if it can be configured...

FYI, if you don't know what VLAN is, just take my word and consider this as impossible to do.

If you are just using it just as an access point, you don't use the wan port though. As previously stated, you disable dhcp and plug the LAN port in to your existing LAN port. The WAN port should not be used.

edit - also, give your new access point a fixed ip address outside of your existing dhcp range and not in conflict with your existing devices so that you can access it as you need to.

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# 1468298 12-Jan-2016 10:58

dolsen:
ericwong: I was trying to do the same thing you are with HG659 and noticed I can't make it work.

I think what happens is the HG659's WAN port is set to use VLAN10 for the fibre modem box, making it unable to be used as an Access Point.

This is further explanation on why I know WAN is using VLAN10 for fibre internet...
http://www.gargoyle-router.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=6230&p=25367&hilit=fibre#p25367

I can't find any option to change the WAN VLAN settings, so the only possible option to make it work is create a VLAN10 on your router for the HG659 router. I didn't bother trying this but I know this should work if it can be configured...

FYI, if you don't know what VLAN is, just take my word and consider this as impossible to do.

If you are just using it just as an access point, you don't use the wan port though. As previously stated, you disable dhcp and plug the LAN port in to your existing LAN port. The WAN port should not be used.

edit - also, give your new access point a fixed ip address outside of your existing dhcp range and not in conflict with your existing devices so that you can access it as you need to.

If I give the 2nd HG659 router I intend to use purely as an AP, a new fixed IP address (say 192.168.1.300) outside the range of the range of the FibreConnected Router/Modem (I dont have the device with me - so cant recall the range) how will the FiibreConnected Router/Modem find this new AP ?

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# 1468351 12-Jan-2016 12:00

hobsonlea:
If I give the 2nd HG659 router I intend to use purely as an AP, a new fixed IP address (say 192.168.1.300) outside the range of the range of the FibreConnected Router/Modem (I dont have the device with me - so cant recall the range) how will the FiibreConnected Router/Modem find this new AP ?

Simple example

Main router, ip address 192.168.0.1
Hands out ip addresses (dhcp range) 192.168.0.100-192.168.0.150
Give the AP an ip address of say 192.168.0.2, ensure dhcp is turned off on the AP and plug AP lan port to main router lan port.

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# 1468444 12-Jan-2016 14:03

hobsonlea:
If I give the 2nd HG659 router I intend to use purely as an AP, a new fixed IP address (say 192.168.1.300) outside the range of the range of the FibreConnected Router/Modem (I dont have the device with me - so cant recall the range) how will the FiibreConnected Router/Modem find this new AP ?

given you cant got higher than .254 that will cause issues. :)

find out what the DHCP pool range is for the router than assign the AP an IP address outside of that pool, or remove the AP's IP address completely and it should get one via DHCP from the router.

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# 1497447 22-Feb-2016 22:04

dolsen:

Simple example

Main router, ip address 192.168.0.1
Hands out ip addresses (dhcp range) 192.168.0.100-192.168.0.150
Give the AP an ip address of say 192.168.0.2, ensure dhcp is turned off on the AP and plug AP lan port to main router lan port.

Newb question perhaps, but I presume you have to have a different SSID on the second router?

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