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#191517 7-Feb-2016 09:07
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Hi there.

 

 

 

We currently have a Huawei HG659 and want to upgrade.  We are on Voda VDSL and won't be getting fibre.

 

We have a small wooden house and are finding that the wireless signal isn't extending from where the router is located(behind the TV in the lounge about 12m away through 2 gib board walls), to the bedroom.  My wife and I are also getting regular drop outs on our phones.  This has happened with multiple hand sets, so we think the problem is the router.  It's causing us to blow out on our data plans, and is annoying.

 

We also want a flexible router which will allow us to block Google's DNS, etc, if necessary, basically anything we might need to access international websites if necessary.

 

We also don't want to spend a lot.

 

We watch a lot of streamed video, typically wired through Apple TV.  We often have 4 devices connected wirelessly at once (2 phones, laptop, ipad).  Typically we aren't all simultanously streaming video, but they may be browsing.

 

So in summary, we want a router that:

 

1. Has a great range and is stable so we get no more wireless drop outs on our phones and so the signal reaches all of the house.

 

2. Is flexible so we can configure it as necessary to access international websites by VPN (eg blocking Google's DNS, or anything else needed).

 

3. Is stable and can handle multiple devices conneted wirelessly.

 

4.  Costs less than $200.

 

 

 

Recommendations would be much appreciated!

 

 

 

 


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  #1486777 7-Feb-2016 09:15
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I don't know what you mean by unblocking Google dns. You can change DNS on either the pic or the router. The router you have will allow you to change the dns server.

As for the wifi I would run a cable to the other end of the house and use a second access point. Or consider moving your router so it is more central to the middle of the house. If you want an amazing router that has significantly better wireless then it will be expensive.


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  #1486781 7-Feb-2016 09:29
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Maybe first try locating the router at a higher point point in the room at least as a test and seeing if that makes it better at all? Sounds like it is located quite low and surrounded by metal?

 

If thats the case, you might be better to get a switch down low behind the tv (for ATV etc.)  and run a cable from that to the higher located router you have?

 

Mark





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  #1486792 7-Feb-2016 09:44
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A new router won't magically fix your wireless problems. People need to distance themselves from the expectation that a single router/ap can provide high performance WiFi to an ensure home because this is not the case with the 2.4GHz band being pretty much congested beyond belief in most urban areas, 5GHz is now the norm (and coverage is pretty much 50% of what you'll get from 2.4GHz), and 60GHz 802.11ad is now finally reality and about to hit the market and won't even go through walls. 10 years from now every room in a house will have an AP for wireless.

 

You need to look at positioning of your router, but the best fix is to buy a 2nd access point and either cable this your existing router or use Ethernet over power extenders to connect the 2nd AP to your network.

 

 


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  #1486817 7-Feb-2016 09:58

Slightly more than $200, but recommended -

 

http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=MODAS0660&name=ASUS-DSL-N66U-ADSLVDSL-Modem-Router-w-Dual-Band-Wi

 

Within the wish list budget -

 

http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=MODTPL9980&name=TP-Link-TD-W9980-N600-Wireless-Dual-Band-Gigabit-V

 

 

 

As stated by others, don't expect magic on your wireless with a less than $200 budget. You'll need to go to a multiple AP setup or a very high end router to guarantee success -

 

http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=MODAS0680&name=ASUS-DSL-AC68U-ADSLVDSL-Modem-Router-w-Dual-Band-W

 

http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=MODDLK4320&name=D-Link-DSL-4320L-TAIPAN-ADSLVDSLUFB-Modem-Router-w

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  #1486854 7-Feb-2016 11:57
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noroad:

 

As stated by others, don't expect magic on your wireless with a less than $200 budget. You'll need to go to a multiple AP setup or a very high end router to guarantee success -

 

 

Even a high end router won't guarantee success because it can't defy the laws of physics. The simple reality is 2.4GHz these days is pretty much a lost cause in many urban environments, and even a high end AP with band steering is no guarantee of significantly better performance. For video streaming 5GHz is the best option, and most hardware now supports it. The real world reality however is that 5GHz penetration is significantly less than 2.4GHz so it's simply unreasonable to expect a single router/ap to deliver 5GHz coverage across an entire average size hours.

 

Additional AP's are always the best option. It's not the answer people like, but it's the only one guaranteed to deliver the required results and performance.

 

 

 

 




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  #1486912 7-Feb-2016 12:37
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Thanks for all the excellent advice. The message is quite clear that I will need to move the router to a central location to get the results I need (for the price I want to pay). I think I will be able to do the cabling myself up the wall and through the roof cavity, so will put that down as a project for the near future. Thanks again.

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  #1486926 7-Feb-2016 12:49
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It is likely you can block Google DNS with the router you have now by creating a static route, but blocking it isn't always enough, What you really need as @michaelmurfy has mentioned many times on here is a router that can redirect all DNS requests 


 
 
 
 


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  #1486951 7-Feb-2016 13:30
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automaton: Thanks for all the excellent advice. The message is quite clear that I will need to move the router to a central location to get the results I need (for the price I want to pay). I think I will be able to do the cabling myself up the wall and through the roof cavity, so will put that down as a project for the near future. Thanks again.


For under 200 you can get an access point which will do a good job. http://www.gowifi.co.nz/ubiquiti-networks/ubiquiti-networks-unifi/ubiquiti-unifi-ap-ac-lite-300-867mbps-100mw-access-point.html?keyword=Uap+ac

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  #1487016 7-Feb-2016 15:42
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Agree. Since your budget is $200 anyway, relocate the router, and if it's it's still not sufficient then get an AP as well.

I recommend Ubiquity APs myself

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