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Topic # 192380 8-Mar-2016 22:12
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I went to PB Tech and bought one of these (D-Link 890L router) today.

 

 

I then installed an ASUS PCE-AC68 PCI-E Wifi antenna in my desktop system, replacing a USB3 ASUS wifi adaptor. 

 

I had been getting up to 300mbps on the USB3 adaptor, but I wanted more. The desktop and the wifi router have been about 10m apart, through two walls. On the HG659b router, the 5GHz connectivity was seriously marginal. 2.4GHz was much better. But still not enough. 

 

Once the new gear was installed and running......I did get more. Here's a screen shot of my connection status. 

 

 

I also tried a speedtest. I got double the usual throughput for the downlink, but I'm still stuck at 20mbps on the uplink....and I'm paying for 200/200.....so something isn't right there. I'm thinking a 526mbps connection should be able to do better than 20mbps on the return leg.  

 

 

 One thing that was a little disappointing is this router doesn't support PPPoA for direct Fibre connection. So it's plugged into my HG659b. But I've seen in the past how simplifying the job the primary modem router has to do can see it perform very well. Don't burden it with several clients and many different sources of traffic. Just feed it traffic through one port and let that traffic already know where it needs to go (the secondary router does the DNS for all clients). 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 





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  Reply # 1508533 8-Mar-2016 22:43
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UFB uses PPPoE. PPPoA is only used on ADSL which originated on the ATM network.

What does Ethernet speed show? Looks like your profile is on 200/20



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  Reply # 1508535 8-Mar-2016 22:48
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sbiddle: UFB uses PPPoE. PPPoA is only used on ADSL which originated on the ATM network.

What does Ethernet speed show? Looks like your profile is on 200/20

 

My problem is that I don't actually have a laptop with a fully functional ethernet port...... :-( 

 

 

 

 





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  Reply # 1508538 8-Mar-2016 22:54
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sbiddle: UFB uses PPPoE. PPPoA is only used on ADSL which originated on the ATM network.

 

Then I wonder why the router wouldn't connect via the fibre? It definitely supports PPPoE.....but I can't see all the details settings.

 

This is all I can see for pppoe 

I'm unclear on the "Service name" and the "MAC Clone" (don't think I need t?)  I can fill in the rest easily enough @sbiddle

 

 

 

 

 

 





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  Reply # 1508597 9-Mar-2016 07:20
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Are you correctly configuring VLAN tagging? If not does it even support VLAN tagging  as the vast majority of devices out there from big name manufacturers don't support this.


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  Reply # 1508679 9-Mar-2016 09:54
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Plenty of posts suggested it doesnt support VLAN tagging, but then I found this post:

 

https://yqzopinion.wordpress.com/26-2/

 

Which suggests that firmware for Singapore and Malaysia was released that does support it.

 

 

 

Though the official dlink pages seem to never mention VLAN.

 

 





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http://www.dlink.com.sg/dir-890l-downloads/#firmware

 

 

 

 

Modifications and Bug Fixes

 

Supports VLAN *For Singapore & Malaysia Only

 

 

 





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  Reply # 1509844 9-Mar-2016 13:32
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sbiddle:

 

Are you correctly configuring VLAN tagging? If not does it even support VLAN tagging  as the vast majority of devices out there from big name manufacturers don't support this.

 

 

In so far as the router doesn't seem to support it.....I guess not. :-)  

 

A bit of an oversight in a supposedly high-end router. 

 

 





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  Reply # 1509846 9-Mar-2016 13:34
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As an aside, Spark has just confirmed they never did fully provision my 200/200 fibre service. It's actually 200/20 (which is what I have been seeing all along). But this router helped make it screamingly obvious because it is so fast otherwise.

 

They are going to look at why my upgrade from 200/20 to 200/200 was never implemented.....despite them having charged me for it for the past 2 months.   

 

On that basis, this router was worth the $399 (or whatever similar). 





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Is it an oversight,

 

or is VLAN tagging seldom used in many markets,

 

or are importers just bringing in models that dont support VLAN tagging because they havent checked the local market requirements properly?





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  Reply # 1509888 9-Mar-2016 13:57
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robjg63:

 

or is VLAN tagging seldom used in many markets,

 

or are importers just bringing in models that dont support VLAN tagging because they havent checked the local market requirements properly?

 

 

this

 

apple have never offered it anywhere.


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VLAN tagging is incredibly common on MEF compliant metro networks - and the simple reality is it's incredibly important because it's not possible to have any CIR on connections without it (ignoring the fact the CIR may not be important for many customers).

 

I think the reality is the NZ UFB rollout is basically one of the best in the world, and we're doing things that other people aren't. A lot of providers overseas also do supply managed CPE on customers with no ability to change it.

 

 

 

 


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Im very surprised that a new unit like that for about $399 doesn't support 802.1q. It is a bridging protocol so you can use it with that router, but you will need another bridging type of device to inject and remove tagging onto the packets.  

 

Alternatively some ISP's will allow you to order an untagged connection, in which case your router will work fine. I suspect D-LINK might add some sort of firmware upgrade later so you can use dot1q.

 

As Sbiddle said, you won't have CIR bandwidth. What this is, is guaranteed if the network is all clogged up. The rest is all burst speed, so in the even the network is really busy the connection will be "best effort".

 

For a residential connection this is not really a big deal. Most of the evolve products come with a CIR of 2.5Mbit. I don't see GPON getting jammed up at this stage. Infact of the sites available that can order fibre I think the true active live connections are about 15 - 20%. The Business and Education UFB plans require a CIR.

 

I believe Spark do tag all their connections. 

 

Either way what is the WiFi coverage like, that router looks like a monster, I imagine the throughput would be quite high. Not sure about the range.








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  Reply # 1510070 9-Mar-2016 18:33
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Well....I made some progress on this today. 

 

1. I put the Huawei HG659b into bridging mode. 

 

2. Got the D-Link DIR-890L connected to the internet via the bridged modem/ router. 

 

3. Got Spark to sort out my fibre speed commissioning issue. Here is a screen shot of my last Speedtest (via the wifi on the 'AC3200'-capable router from my desktop PC). 

 

 

 

 

That's more like it. 





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  Reply # 1510074 9-Mar-2016 18:38
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You can also get a basic Microtik switch to handle the VLAN tagging. I've done that on a couple of fibre connections.




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