Powerline Ethernet - Compatibility between different devices

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#195496 21-Apr-2016 18:11

If i have two different powerline ethernet devices (different manufacturers) will they be able to talk to each other, the bumpf that comes with them mentions homeplug av which is a standard i believe, so should they be able to talk to one and other?

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#1537677 21-Apr-2016 18:12

if you have them test it and see?

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#1537678 21-Apr-2016 18:17

I understand the answer to be yes, but you may not get top speed. I've never tried it myself.

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#1537684 21-Apr-2016 18:37

Had a pair of Edimax homeplug, added a d-link homeplug WiFi extender. It worked fine.
Yes homeplug is a standard, you should be ok.

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#1537686 21-Apr-2016 18:38

Sorry, to clarify, i don't own them yet, I was about to purchase and then thought I'd better check they will be compatible, i have read loads of specs and stuff and i think they should be but all i know is what i have read tonight, and I was relying on the collected wisdom and experience of GZers, to set me straight.

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#1537689 21-Apr-2016 18:42

Best to assume that mixing brands will give poor performance, until proven otherwise.

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#1537711 21-Apr-2016 19:38

Ive tried Tenda ones with TP-Link ones and it did work but was very flaky. To the point I ditched them and just got another set of matching TP-Links.. The Tenda ones are now used for test purposes but work fine on their own..

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#1537727 21-Apr-2016 20:01

I'll probably stick with all the same brand, its just i had seen a single unit with 4 lan ports going very cheaply, which would have been ideal for my lounge.

Will it affect the speed of my network much if i run the power adaptor into a hub with 4 devices attached?

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#1537864 22-Apr-2016 07:24

Keep in mind the newer Homeplug AV2 units are starting to come out now. Unfortunately only d-link seem to have something you can buy in NZ and they don't have AC passthrough.

http://www.ascent.co.nz/productspecification.aspx?itemID=434168

But we should get these soon

http://www.tp-link.com.au/products/details/cat-18_TL-PA8010P-KIT.html

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#1537866 22-Apr-2016 08:02

Morgenmuffel:

I'll probably stick with all the same brand, its just i had seen a single unit with 4 lan ports going very cheaply, which would have been ideal for my lounge.

Will it affect the speed of my network much if i run the power adaptor into a hub with 4 devices attached?

Do you man hub or switch?

If it's a hub, yes performance will potentially be impacted significantly.

If it's a switch then no, it won't make a difference. The 4 port adapter will only have a switch chip in it anyway to create multiple ports.

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#1537902 22-Apr-2016 08:54

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But we should get these soon

http://www.tp-link.com.au/products/details/cat-18_TL-PA8010P-KIT.html

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#1537912 22-Apr-2016 09:05

Its one of these, I have always referred to them as hubs

www.cnet.com/products/cnet-csh-800-switch-8-ports-desktop-series/

Its a bit of a pain really as the ports don't always wake up

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#1537916 22-Apr-2016 09:10

Morgenmuffel:

Its one of these, I have always referred to them as hubs

www.cnet.com/products/cnet-csh-800-switch-8-ports-desktop-series/

Its a bit of a pain really as the ports don't always wake up

A hub and a switch are two very different things.

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#1537917 22-Apr-2016 09:10

Morgenmuffel:

Its one of these, I have always referred to them as hubs

www.cnet.com/products/cnet-csh-800-switch-8-ports-desktop-series/

Its a bit of a pain really as the ports don't always wake up

That one looks straight out of the 90's and is only 100 megabit.

While technically speaking what is called a switch is actually a "switching hub" to almost every person in networking if you say a hub they will think a repeating hub which at 100 megabit speeds absolutely hammers your network performance by a huge margin, and they do not make anymore because its a pointless saving.

I have probably a half dozern of these ones around the house on various things where I dont have enough cables to that place, they are fine, no problems with ports not waking up, no thruput problems, no crashing and getting hot like my linksys ones have done.

http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=SWHTPL1010&name=TP-Link-TL-SG1008D-8-Port-Gigabit-Switch-Non-block

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#1540946 24-Apr-2016 01:38

I am a huge user of powerline units. Probably install about 4 pairs a week as ISP supplied equipment since i cant find a reasonable all-in-one router with a PLC built in.

I find the 200mbit ones work almost fine with each other. We actually use the mini dumb tenda units connected to the master router with a tplink which has a built in wifi AP as the extension because its cheaper for the price, but contains a compatible chipset.

Some brands are incompatible because they add their own security or pairing system. However I have started using the netgear universal powerline controller software which can program most homeplugs. We just set the network name to the default and they usually talk fine.

I am not sure about the newer 500mbps ones.

If you get a layer 2 speed of 30mbits or less, you will be getting packet loss at the actual tcp/udp level.

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